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PROTOTYPE
The first prototype computer was created by Babbage in the 1800s. Woudl you count that as a computer?
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The first consumer device arrived in stores on April 10, 2003: the Sony BDZ-S77, a $3,800 (US) BD-RE recorder that was made available only in Japan.[15]

[15] = http://ixbtlabs.com/articles2/blu-ray/

If you read my whole post you would see
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The first Bluray was created in 2000

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first consumer blurays were created in 2002.

Which I corrected in the edit.

Consumer blurays are almost 10 years old. You can't say we shouldn't keep using floppy disks because they are 10+ years old but we can still use bluray because that is older than 10 years old (for the prototype) and the consumer blurays will be 10 years old in just under 7 months time.
Of course a 3.8K player is for the masses rolleyes.gif


By your standards http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalsa_Origin would also count.
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Originally Posted by Murlocke View Post

Just because you like to deal with low bitrate 1080p (or low bitrate 720p) videos, doesn't mean every does.
It's a very selfish move.

Rip the media yourself on another system (or with an external drive). That way you can control the quality.

It's pretty easy to cut the size of a BD rip in half with a virtually imperceptible loss of quality.
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New: Apple has the banned the mouse. "It's holding us back" they say. Apple will move the mouse automatically for you, at their discretion.

Apple isn't banning Blu-Ray. They just aren't including the drives.

If you need to access such media on upcoming mobile Apple products, chances are an external device will still work.
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PROTOTYPE
Would you count that as a computer?

Does it automatically perform mathematical computations? Then it's a computer.
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Not to mention that Blu-Ray still costs an arm and a leg...

Exactly.

8-16GiB of crappy flash on a micro SD card would still leave plenty of room for gouging consumers.
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If Sony revealed Blu-Rays 6 years before they went mainstream, then why don't we know what the next-gen storage tech is?

It's not that we don't know the possibilities, we just don't know which ones will take off.

At any given moment in time there are many technologies that have been in the works for many years that could be the next big "next-gen storage tech". Indeed, it's almost inevitable that at least one or more of these will be. New tech doesn't spring from nothingness.
Edited by Blameless - 10/29/12 at 11:10am
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You know the sad thing is that I still like to use floppy disks, and I would still like to use regular disks for a long time. I don't know about you guys, but I still like to have different files and media archived rather than be on a hard drive or USB flash drive that is waiting to be lost do to a hardware failure.
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Agreed. How is it holding them back by having an extra option to add a blu ray. Protectionism of itunes movies basically. No surprise, although I disagree with their decision.

It is holding them back by having to design for optical drives. Even if you don't buy the option to have the drive, the machine you buy would still need to have the empty slot there for it to sit in. By removing them from the design they can make a thinner and smaller machine.

I think they are jelly of the Surface...and that got them thinking how to make their machines smaller.
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You know the sad thing is that I still like to use floppy disks, and I would still like to use regular disks for a long time. I don't know about you guys, but I still like to have different files and media archived rather than be on a hard drive or USB flash drive that is waiting to be lost do to a hardware failure.

You probably have a higher chance of a floppy sitting in a drawer going bad than you do of a hard drive crashing. At least use re-writable optical disks.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 10/29/12 at 11:13am
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Of course a 3.8K player is for the masses rolleyes.gif
By your standards http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalsa_Origin would also count.

It wasn't for the masses, at the time that's how much it would have cost. Just like TVs. You won't remember this, but at one point a 32" LCD 720p TV would have cost over £5K. Now you can get a good 1080p LCD TV for under £400. Personally I paid £289.99 for mine.

Soon that camera (and 100+ Mbps internet connections) will be available to just about everyone at a reasonable price. When that happens physical media will be pretty pointless, unless you wanted it as a novelty.

And yes, I would count that as there have been 4K prototype cameras and extremely expensive 4K consumer cameras.
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Maybe they should get rid of HDDs and SSDs and move to EEC based RAMDisks. Those HDDs and SSDs are such old tech. They hold people browsing facebook and instagram back.
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Apple ahead of the curve again! thumb.gif We have Apple to thank for all the progressive movement towards Digital content and yet, more hate...I just wish they'd create their own alternative (iDrive or something) which would be an external device through which we'd watch movies of 1" diameter disks...that way, if someone's internet is slow, they can just use an iDrive.
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It wasn't for the masses, at the time that's how much it would have cost. Just like TVs. You won't remember this, but at one point a 32" LCD 720p TV would have cost over £5K. Now you can get a good 1080p LCD TV for under £400. Personally I paid £289.99 for mine.
Soon that camera (and 100+ Mbps internet connections) will be available to just about everyone at a reasonable price. When that happens physical media will be pretty pointless, unless you wanted it as a novelty.
And yes, I would count that as there have been 4K prototype cameras and extremely expensive 4K consumer cameras.

Sure, but even though i got 120+ Mbps and i can download as high as 16.5MB/s i still would rather use the discs. This mostly goes for Video Games, but movies as well.
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You know the sad thing is that I still like to use floppy disks, and I would still like to use regular disks for a long time. I don't know about you guys, but I still like to have different files and media archived rather than be on a hard drive or USB flash drive that is waiting to be lost do to a hardware failure.

Mechanical HDDs tend to last a lot longer than floppies, or even cheap writable optical media. Your data is incomparably safer on a HDD than a floppy.

Quality solid state media is even more resilient.
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It is holding them back by having to design for optical drives. Even if you don't buy the option to have the drive, the machine you buy would still need to have the empty slot there for it to sit in. By removing them from the design they can make a thinner and smaller machine.

I don't know why people don't see this.

Only look at the CD/DVD/Blu-Ray form factor should be enough to show anyone what a huge burden it is when trying to reduce the size of devices.

You will never get an optical drive that is smaller than the discs, and the discs are 5" across. This is enormous.
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Apple ahead of the curve again! thumb.gif We have Apple to thank for all the progressive movement towards Digital content and yet, more hate...I just wish they'd create their own alternative (iDrive or something) which would be an external device through which we'd watch movies of 1" diameter disks...that way, if someone's internet is slow, they can just use an iDrive.

Another useless, redundant, proprietary, storage system?

No.
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For the 80% of people who CAN'T stream HD content, much less Blurays with 40-50mbps rates (for comparison I have really fast Internet and mine is only 12mbps which doesn't even touch Bluray), they simply can't watch Blurays.

12mbps is not that fast, 50mbps+ is fast
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