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Unpopular =/= inferior. Superior: "A person or thing superior to another in rank, status, or quality"
MKV and MPEG2 > MP4
FLAC and .wav > MP3.
It is fact. If I have a flawed idea of what is superior and inferior, so do all dictionaries.

For the record MKV and MP4 are containers, not encoding formats, and you can put almost anything in them (including h.262/MPEG-2 inside an MP4).
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where exactly do you get quality content from that can compare to Blu-Ray?

A BluRay rip.

I have one optical drive in my household. Anything that I cannot get at suitable quality, without physical media, goes into that drive. I then rip it and put the files wherever I want them.
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goodluck streaming/downloading 4k contents

4 and 8K content won't be on the same h.264/MPEG-4 AVC encoding as has been standard for 1080p BluRay video forever.

HEVC, combined with increasing broadband penetration, will likely make 8k content more viable to download in 3-5 years than 1080p/BluRay quality content is now.
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i thought it was because apple was too cheap/stubborn to pay Sony and the BD association licencing fees.
 
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because apple is not one of the proprietors
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Everyone wants to pigeonhole them as for their reasoning for this decision. I say it is a combination of things. They want the extra room and feel the % of people wanting a BD drive is low enough to exclude it, knowing that they can buy an external one if they desire. They also know that a good portion of those same people will choose the convenience of iTunes, making them more money. This decision was weighed out very thoughtfully I am sure. They probably went through it over and over to come up with a decision that made the most sense for the company as a whole. Profits, period would be the overall factor I assure you, but that doesn't exclude the smaller factors having a part in their decision making.

I have a deep flaming hatred for Apple as a company, but I try not to let that override my logical sense.
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This looks like purely a business decision for Apple, rather than a technological one. BluRay involves license fees for anyone selling BluRay hardware, and incorporating an optical drive will lead to higher manufacturing costs (not including the actual drive unit).

So with that in mind, Apple win thrice: no BluRay license fees, cheaper manufacturing costs going forward and they will sell their products for the same price as before, which in turn means higher profit margin.

Additionally, this will likely drive Mac users further towards iTunes, which in turn will lead to greater control and higher revenues for Apple. Apple have also taken the Ethernet port off of their new MBPs; admittedly such ports rarely get used on a laptop so it's probably a sensible move, if a somewhat annoying one for many of us.
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This looks like purely a business decision for Apple, rather than a technological one. BluRay involves license fees for anyone selling BluRay hardware, and incorporating an optical drive will lead to higher manufacturing costs (not including the actual drive unit).

So with that in mind, Apple win thrice: no BluRay license fees, cheaper manufacturing costs going forward and they will sell their products for the same price as before, which in turn means higher profit margin.

Additionally, this will likely drive Mac users further towards iTunes, which in turn will lead to greater control and higher revenues for Apple. Apple have also taken the Ethernet port off of their new MBPs; admittedly such ports rarely get used on a laptop so it's probably a sensible move, if a somewhat annoying one for many of us.

Also consider the new iMac and MacBook Pros could not fit an optical drive. I'm sure they've done studies that show that users will value lighter and thinners computers over keeping an optical drive that they almost never use.
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You all are functioning under the premise that Mac's have native Blu-Ray support but they don't. If you were to buy a Blu-Ray drive you'd still need another program to play the Blu-Ray and woul need to be connected to the internet to decode it.

My Mac Pro and G5 both have Blu-Ray drives but I use Make MKV and rip them into on of my HDD's.
 
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This looks like purely a business decision for Apple, rather than a technological one. BluRay involves license fees for anyone selling BluRay hardware, and incorporating an optical drive will lead to higher manufacturing costs (not including the actual drive unit).
So with that in mind, Apple win thrice: no BluRay license fees, cheaper manufacturing costs going forward and they will sell their products for the same price as before, which in turn means higher profit margin.
Additionally, this will likely drive Mac users further towards iTunes, which in turn will lead to greater control and higher revenues for Apple. Apple have also taken the Ethernet port off of their new MBPs; admittedly such ports rarely get used on a laptop so it's probably a sensible move, if a somewhat annoying one for many of us.
I really doubt the licensing fees are high enough for Apple to care about.
Manufacturing costs get cheaper anyway, and im sure that making smaller laptops with the same components does not make everything cheaper.
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Also consider the new iMac and MacBook Pros could not fit an optical drive. I'm sure they've done studies that show that users will value lighter and thinners computers over keeping an optical drive that they almost never use.
Exactly. I dont know anyone that ever touches a cd anymore. And everyone streams movies or downloads them. Who would put a bluray to watch on their laptop?
And for backup? Just use an external drive. It's silly now to rely on optical disks to backup.
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You all are functioning under the premise that Mac's have native Blu-Ray support but they don't. If you were to buy a Blu-Ray drive you'd still need another program to play the Blu-Ray and woul need to be connected to the internet to decode it.
My Mac Pro and G5 both have Blu-Ray drives but I use Make MKV and rip them into on of my HDD's.

windows doesn't have native bluray support, what's your point?
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This is a move forward. I don't see any drawback to this. I don't remember the last time I used a disc for anything.

I don't know why people are trying to make this sound like a bad thing, oh that's right, because it's Apple and everything they do is bad.
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