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The most common EMP (which are rare in the first place) only last less than 1 second. Enough to kill transistors but not much of anything else.
I know 10+ movie enthusiasts, again, they are not everyone. But, all of them use physical media over streaming for that better quality. Because they would prefer having image quality over a slight increase in convenience. And that number is quite incorrect. I have discs from 1996. The were tortured in my conditions and they still work just like they day they were made. Scratching never happens without human error. I guess you (also me) have to handle responsibility better than others to take care of your fragile things.

Yes, I know scratching is due to human error/bad luck (from an pet chewing on it or something) but they scratch incredibly easy. All you need to do is put it down on a table and if you can't pick it up again without having to slide it, you might as well throw the CD away.
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Being able to buy Apple products in country X doesn't necessarily mean Apple itself has a presence in that country.
My friend in Tbilisi, Georgia is an Apple fan but can only buy Apple products from a single third-party retailer, and as far as I know without access to support.

This. Apple's prioritizing the US, Canada and Europe, all places where you can get relativity fast internet (15 Mbps +) at a "reasonable" price. I know not everyone is able to get 15 Mbps+ in those places, but it's still possible for millions of people.
    
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The most common EMP (which are rare in the first place) only last less than 1 second. Enough to kill transistors but not much of anything else.
I know 10+ movie enthusiasts, again, they are not everyone. But, all of them use physical media over streaming for that better quality. Because they would prefer having image quality over a slight increase in convenience. And that number is quite incorrect. I have discs from 1996. The were tortured in my conditions and they still work just like they day they were made. Scratching never happens without human error. I guess you (also me) have to handle responsibility better than others to take care of your fragile things.

Yes, I know scratching is due to human error/bad luck (from an pet chewing on it or something) but they scratch incredibly easy. All you need to do is put it down on a table and if you can't pick it up again without having to slide it, you might as well throw the CD away.
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Being able to buy Apple products in country X doesn't necessarily mean Apple itself has a presence in that country.
My friend in Tbilisi, Georgia is an Apple fan but can only buy Apple products from a single third-party retailer, and as far as I know without access to support.

This. Apple's prioritizing the US, Canada and Europe, all places where you can get relativity fast internet (15 Mbps +) at a "reasonable" price. I know not everyone is able to get 15 Mbps+ in those places, but it's still possible for millions of people.

On the durability scale BD > DVD > CD. I have 16 year old CD's. Most have little to no scratches. And at the same time I have DVD's with more scratches. tongue.gif They still work perfectly fine though.
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Who said enterprises should backup their data on BluRay? While optical disks serve many uses, backing up large amounts of data was never a primary one so I don't know why you'd use such an argument against them..

Merely responding to your comment about how optical drives are more durable than HDD or a SDD [sic].

Where optical drives are affected by dust, scratches, etc. hdds and ssds are not and are much more resilient. Hence why in a situation where durability is of utmost importance, optical drives are not ideal.

I've had to clean optical drive lenses several times. Slot drives are extremely susceptible to dust as well that i've had to replace many in Macbook/Pros and a few Dells.

There is also another reason why Optical drives must have robust error correction. Optical media is not perfect nor as durable as spindle or ssd.
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Who said enterprises should backup their data on BluRay? While optical disks serve many uses, backing up large amounts of data was never a primary one so I don't know why you'd use such an argument against them..

Merely responding to your comment about how optical drives are more durable than HDD or a SDD [sic].

Where optical drives are affected by dust, scratches, etc. hdds and ssds are not and are much more resilient. Hence why in a situation where durability is of utmost importance, optical drives are not ideal.

I've had to clean optical drive lenses several times. Slot drives are extremely susceptible to dust as well that i've had to replace many in Macbook/Pros and a few Dells.

It's more complicated than you think.
An optical disc is not effected by dust as that can easily be removed.
As for HDD's, while dust does not effect the outer protection, if (huge IF) it gets inside it can screw things up.
Scratches and drops. While if a disc drops, it'll bounce and most of the time will be fine. If a HDD falls, there is a high chance it will live, but there is a higher chance of a HDD being damaged than a disc, falling on the same surface.
As for scratch, both can sustain scratches. HDD's due to drops and discs due to certain carpet and not paying attention.
Durability. It is extremely hard to crack a CD through bending it. To do major damage you pretty much have to be wearing shoes. As for HDD's too much pressure and the plates get damaged. But both are cause by human error.
SSD is most durable, but does not last as long. You replace long lasting with durability. Which can be a nice trade-off.
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Bluray is not banned! You can buy an external drive if you need one!
how many times do we have to mention that! all those people that complaining here won't gonna buy them anyway, they just wanna hate for the sake of hating! mac users doesn't care!
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BLURAY IS NOT BANNED! YOU CAN BUY AN EXTERNAL DRIVE IF YOU NEED ONE!

This has been said already...
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This has been said already...

so what are we arguing about here? you can still use CDs, what's your problem?
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This has been said already...

so what are we arguing about here? you can still use CDs, what's your problem?

It turned into a battle between people who have done research, and those who have only heard the propaganda.
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i think it's a fairly legit criticism of the imac. i mean there are no real benefits from it being that thin, just aesthetics. it's not like the old imac too up much desktop space. for laptops though, it seems like a legit trade off for better battery life+weight.

the imac is underwhelming this time (no retina)
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Apple is all about aestethics, you are paying for aestethics. Most people that buys apple products are more concerned about aestethics than specs.
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