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We know that time slows to a stop if you reach the speed of light (mathematically), if you were to exceed the speed of light somehow, that same math says time for you would reverse. Of course, that same math also says you need infinite energy to reach the speed of light, which isn't possible. It's all theoretical.
I don't believe you can travel backward in time either, but just because we believe that now doesn't mean we won't discover something in 100 years that turns that idea on its head.

It is impossible on every single level for anything in the universe to reverse time. Nothing now, in 100 years or a million years will ever ever change that.
The notion has a ridiculously uncanny nature and shouldn't even be considered my friend.
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We know that time slows to a stop if you reach the speed of light (mathematically), if you were to exceed the speed of light somehow, that same math says time for you would reverse. Of course, that same math also says you need infinite energy to reach the speed of light, which isn't possible. It's all theoretical.
I don't believe you can travel backward in time either, but just because we believe that now doesn't mean we won't discover something in 100 years that turns that idea on its head.

It is impossible on every single level for anything in the universe to reverse time. Nothing now, in 100 years or a million years will ever ever change that.
The notion has a ridiculously uncanny nature and shouldn't even be considered my friend.

I wonder how many times this has been said in the past, only to become basic knowledge and easily done later. Never say impossible, especially when it comes to such complex and relatively unknown things. We have NO idea what is possible or not possible yet. We are overall still ignorant in the grand scheme of things. We think we are so advanced and smart. I'm sure our ancestors felt the exact same as we do now, that we are highly intelligent and evolved. Almost knowing everything to be known, etc. We have MUCH to learn.

"Just think what we'll know tomorrow".
Edited by Strat79 - 10/29/12 at 5:26pm
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I wonder how many times this has been said in the past, only to become basic knowledge and easily done later. Never say impossible, especially when it comes to such complex and relatively unknown things. We have NO idea what is possible or not possible yet. We are overall still ignorant in the grand scheme of things. We think we are so advanced and smart. I'm sure our ancestors felt the exact same as we do now, that we are highly intelligent and evolved. Almost knowing everything to be know, etc. We have MUCH to learn.
"Just think what we'll known tomorrow".

Yeah mate look i'm going to agree with that... should never say impossible since we aren't all knowing.
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It is impossible on every single level for anything in the universe to reverse time. Nothing now, in 100 years or a million years will ever ever change that.
The notion has a ridiculously uncanny nature and shouldn't even be considered my friend.
Again, they said the idea of the Earth being round was ridiculous. The point I was trying to make was that just because it's impossible to us and that we don't know how it would, or even could work, doesn't mean that at some arbitrary point in the future someone will discover something that we don't know. Since time travel is impossible to us, we have no way of knowing if it will always be impossible wink.gif
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I wonder how many times this has been said in the past, only to become basic knowledge and easily done later. Never say impossible, especially when it comes to such complex and relatively unknown things. We have NO idea what is possible or not possible yet. We are overall still ignorant in the grand scheme of things. We think we are so advanced and smart. I'm sure our ancestors felt the exact same as we do now, that we are highly intelligent and evolved. Almost knowing everything to be know, etc. We have MUCH to learn.
"Just think what we'll known tomorrow".

Yeah mate look i'm going to agree with that... should never say impossible since we aren't all knowing.

That was the point I was trying to make as well.
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OMG the stock market. Hasn't it been mutilated enough?
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Lets not get carried away. Define time ?
Time is a measurement.
How can you say that traveling faster than the speed of light (also a measurement) would alter anything that is currently happening.
All you are doing is moving really fast between two points. It would not put you in the past nor the future.
everything I said, is obviously assuming that Eisenstein is correct, we see evidence of time dilation on satellites, they have atomic clocks onboard, which are VERY accurate, but because of time dilation those clocks run slow a few billionths of a second slow and have to be updated every day, otherwise GPS would go haywire and you could loose 20 miles accuracy per day if they aren't callibrated. what I'm saying is, time goes by slower up there than it does relative to earth, and its not speculation there is plenty of evidence to back up this claim, of course we cant travel close to the speed of light so we don't know what the exact effects are, but according to a solid theory, time travel is possible.
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That was the point I was trying to make as well.

Yes that was your point.
That even though we think it is impossible now, who knows what 2morro brings. That is acceptable. smile.gif
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everything I said, is obviously assuming that Eisenstein is correct, we see evidence of time dilation on satellites, they have atomic clocks onboard, which are VERY accurate, but because of time dilation those clocks run slow a few billionths of a second slow and have to be updated every day, otherwise GPS would go haywire and you could loose 20 miles accuracy per day if they aren't callibrated. what I'm saying is, time goes by slower up there than it does relative to earth, and its not speculation there is plenty of evidence to back up this claim, of course we cant travel close to the speed of light so we don't know what the exact effects are, but according to a solid theory, time travel is possible.

Ok i see what you mean, but ultimately you will only be traveling through the measurement since "time" = measurement.
Time cannot be frozen from where you departed because that would just void the "measurement" making "time" irrelevant.

So traveling through time would just re-define a man-made scale which in turn is just increasing speed from point A to point B.
Time cannot go slower up there since we presently co-exist with "up there".

If the hypothesis of time being slower "up there" in space is correct, then that just means our measuring tools are inaccurate, and that is all.

I think that this should be remembered....
If time is a measurement (which indeed it is), it requires perfect tools to measure. And who are we to say that we have created the perfect measuring tool ?
Time is time and it cannot be different to another space. This is just my theory, and like all of man, i could be wrong.
Edited by Renairy - 10/29/12 at 6:46pm
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Ok i see what you mean, but ultimately you will only be traveling through the measurement since "time" = measurement.
Time cannot be frozen from where you departed because that would just void the "measurement" making "time" irrelevant.
So traveling through time would just re-define a man-made scale which in turn is just increasing speed from point A to point B.
Time cannot go slower up there since we presently co-exist with "up there".
If the hypothesis of time being slower "up there" in space, then that just means our measuring tools are inaccurate, and that is all.
that's where you are wrong, time isn't just a measurement, its a dimension, the fabric of time can be warped and bent depending on the mass and speed of an object. an austronaut that spends a total of 365 days on the international space station (which travels around 17,500mph) is actually 0.007 seconds younger. its been proven these people are already time travelers, It may not be much, but they traveled 0.007 seconds into the future, they did not experience that amount of time, again another example of time dilation. if its an issue of measurement, then why do we have the same exact clock on earth, and the same exact clock in space, calibrated at the same time, yet one is always faster, and the other is always slower. if it were in fact a measurement problem then the clock on earth would appear to be slow sometimes too, but that's never the case, time measure here on earth is always faster than time measured in orbit.
Edited by HK_47 - 10/29/12 at 6:50pm
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