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that's where you are wrong, time isn't just a measurement, its a dimension, the fabric of time can be warped and bent depending on the mass and speed of an object. an austronaut that spends a total of 365 days on the international space station (which travels around 17,500mph) is actually 0.007 seconds younger. its been proven these people are already time travelers, It may not be much, but they traveled 0.007 seconds into the future, they did not experience that amount of time, again another example of time dilation. if its an issue of measurement, then why do we have the same exact clock on earth, and the same exact clock in space, calibrated at the same time, yet one is always faster, and the other is always slower. if it were in fact a measurement problem then the clock on earth would appear to be slow sometimes too, but that's never the case, time measure here on earth is always faster than time measured in orbit.

This is interesting, i would like to see proof.
And again how do we know that our tools aren't compromised or not compatible with space's atmosphere.

Them two points are very valid and you cannot say that they are not.
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there is a data teleportation technology that exist.or will exist soon ,but its a kid that invented the protocol gov plan to use it a secure com channel since supposedly for now it cant be hacked!ya it is literally teleportation .they move something from one place and send it say 1 milimeter away via teleportation.it sound silly but the fact the data is transported wirelessly sound cool!
you want my view?i think it is a wavelenght of light or something else we havent grasped its physical ways yet!its liike ultraviolet light ,who can say there isnt an invisible light (for us but that can transport data for us it would be teleportation .but in reality it would just be data transported via invisible light.if i recall in the 80s wwhen i was at school there were invisible wave lenght of light!

the light spectrum is either lower then the ultraviolet spectrum or higher then the infrared spectrum!yep we got ycbcr 4.2.0 to clip at certain place in hdtv .i bet us in nature this is where we get clipped!but there is a lot more going on i suspect in the lower the ultraviolet and higher then infrared!

if i was to venture a specific?i would say he is using cosmic ray!
Edited by drbaltazar - 10/29/12 at 7:03pm
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This is interesting, i would like to see proof.
And again how do we know that our tools aren't compromised or not compatible with space's atmosphere.
Them two points are very valid and you cannot say that they are not.

for example..... ive dealt with some Windows PC's that have a very funny problem...... they lose time !

  1. http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/68530-problem-windows-7-losing-time.html
  2. http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-xp/my-windows-xp-clock-keep-losing-time/198973.html
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This is interesting, i would like to see proof.
And again how do we know that our tools aren't compromised or not compatible with space's atmosphere.
Them two points are very valid and you cannot say that they are not.
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In the theory of relativity, time dilation is an actual difference of elapsed time between two events as measured by observers either moving relative to each other or differently situated from gravitational masses.An accurate clock at rest with respect to one observer may be measured to tick at a different rate when compared to a second observer's own equally accurate clocks. This effect arises neither from technical aspects of the clocks nor from the fact that signals need time to propagate, but from the nature of spacetime itself.
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A case of time dilation in action is that astronauts return from missions on the International Space Station (ISS) having aged less than the mission control crew that remained on Earth. Such time dilation has been repeatedly demonstrated (see experimental confirmation below), for instance by small disparities in atomic clocks on Earth and in space, even though both clocks work perfectly (it is not a mechanical malfunction). The laws of nature are such that time itself (i.e. spacetime) will bend due to differences in either gravity or velocity—each of which affects time in different ways.

Time Dilation
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cosmic rays cause a lot of issue!why do you think they use ecc for ram!because cosmic ray can invert ram!so a scientist find a way to harness cosmic ray instead of light wavelenght is probably way lower or could be in the neutral or negative?imagine lightpeak from intel with cosmic ray fiber instead of fiber optic?same principle but with a wavelenght of what 2 order or 4 order of magnitude lower!hell even atom would have a fun time at those level i suspect but it would garanty miniaturisation!.imagine a quantum pphysic cosmic ray enabled cpu?
Edited by drbaltazar - 10/29/12 at 7:09pm
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2. Time travel is impossible in a universe. If time travel was possible, then somebody in the future would have already broken security protocols, traveled back in time and messed things up. It's just too tempting not to do it. The only possibility is time travel in paralel universes, where we can travel back to a "photocopy" of our past and change things, but they won't reflect themselves in our universe.

it is possible that they already did, you have to watch ANCIENT ALIENS man, it's an interesting documentary about what happened in the past like, how did the egyptians built the pyramids manually? how did they transport those huge rocks and stacked up to build pyramids? one of their theories is that aliens gave us some kind of knowledge and tools in the past, and those aliens are actually humans of the future travelled back in time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgJ7-R4Zpbk
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>Don't know about special relativity
>rule out more complex ideas
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everything I said, is obviously assuming that Eisenstein is correct, we see evidence of time dilation on satellites, they have atomic clocks onboard, which are VERY accurate, but because of time dilation those clocks run slow a few billionths of a second slow and have to be updated every day, otherwise GPS would go haywire and you could loose 20 miles accuracy per day if they aren't callibrated. what I'm saying is, time goes by slower up there than it does relative to earth, and its not speculation there is plenty of evidence to back up this claim, of course we cant travel close to the speed of light so we don't know what the exact effects are, but according to a solid theory, time travel is possible.

Ok i see what you mean, but ultimately you will only be traveling through the measurement since "time" = measurement.
Time cannot be frozen from where you departed because that would just void the "measurement" making "time" irrelevant.

So traveling through time would just re-define a man-made scale which in turn is just increasing speed from point A to point B.
Time cannot go slower up there since we presently co-exist with "up there".

If the hypothesis of time being slower "up there" in space is correct, then that just means our measuring tools are inaccurate, and that is all.

I think that this should be remembered....
If time is a measurement (which indeed it is), it requires perfect tools to measure. And who are we to say that we have created the perfect measuring tool ?
Time is time and it cannot be different to another space. This is just my theory, and like all of man, i could be wrong.

Time dilation has been proven quite precisely to match what special relativity predicts. Time dilation doesn't just affect time taken to travel a distance, it affects everything about the particles that are being influenced. This means aging slows down, radioactive decay slows down, chemical reactions slow down, etc. Long story short, time is warped and moving more slowly for the mass that is moving more quickly, or for masses within a large gravitational field.

If you could get in a space ship and fly to Alpha Centauri at almost the speed of light, you'd get there in what would seem to you like a few days, and when you looked back at Earth over 4 years would have elapsed for it. It's effectively a forward-only time travel.

Also, time is relative, and is different in different spaces. Galaxies traveling faster through space are experiencing time more slowly than we are.

More reading: http://www.awitness.org/unified/pages/time_dilation.html
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Time dilation has been proven quite precisely to match what special relativity predicts. Time dilation doesn't just affect time taken to travel a distance, it affects everything about the particles that are being influenced. This means aging slows down, radioactive decay slows down, chemical reactions slow down, etc. Long story short, time is warped and moving more slowly for the mass that is moving more quickly, or for masses within a large gravitational field.
If you could get in a space ship and fly to Alpha Centauri at almost the speed of light, you'd get there in what would seem to you like a few days, and when you looked back at Earth over 4 years would have elapsed for it. It's effectively a forward-only time travel.

So, if you were to fly back........ your saying everybody will be 8 years older earth time and you would have only aged a few days ???
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Time dilation has been proven quite precisely to match what special relativity predicts. Time dilation doesn't just affect time taken to travel a distance, it affects everything about the particles that are being influenced. This means aging slows down, radioactive decay slows down, chemical reactions slow down, etc. Long story short, time is warped and moving more slowly for the mass that is moving more quickly, or for masses within a large gravitational field.
If you could get in a space ship and fly to Alpha Centauri at almost the speed of light, you'd get there in what would seem to you like a few days, and when you looked back at Earth over 4 years would have elapsed for it. It's effectively a forward-only time travel.

So, if you were to fly back........ your saying everybody will be 8 years older earth time and you would have only aged a few days ???

Yes, that's correct. And I promise you that it's true and proven by thousands of tests over the last 100 years. Every test done so far has only reinforced special relativity.

Here, read this: http://www.awitness.org/unified/pages/time_dilation.html or more accurate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation
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