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How's that RAZR MAXX on ICS treating you? Oh thats right. Regular Android phones don't get updated wink.gif
My Galaxy Nexus on 2000 mAh (GSM) lasts more than enough for one day. In fact, battery life has been getting better and better for me.
Putting a bigger mAh on the phone isn't a solution. Optimizing 4G technology is the solution. Don't judge the phone with typical LG stereotypes, Google wouldn't of went with LG if they weren't making good phones. There's new tech in LG's battery, stay clear of judgement and wait for the actual review.
In terms of 4G LTE, it all comes down to pricing. It makes the phone cost more. Google is trying to fit the phone into the $299-$349 price range unlocked without taking a loss. That for that, it is impressive considering what specs you're getting at that price.
Nexus devices are for people who doesn't want any carrier interference, wants latest updates and most likely wants to be involved with development with Android (apps, custom kernels, custom roms). It's not a everyday device. You don't go outside and see Nexus devices on everybodies' hands.
At the end of the day: No VZW Nexus 4 because:
A) VZW is not bootloader unlockable friendly [take a look at their lineup... including Galaxy S3 bootloader locked, yes it can be unlocked but not regularly compared to other variants of the S3)
B) VZW wants control and branding on their Nexus phone. Galaxy Nexus (VZW) has 4G LTE logo on the back. Verizon logo on the Galaxy Note II button (why DO THIS?! WHY?????)
C) VZW wants to approve its update before its ever pushed out and include VZW app(s) on their phones.
All of these are points that defeats the purpose of a NEXUS device and for what it stands. Nexus devices are meant to be unaltered and Google wants control of their devices.
VZW Galaxy Nexus gets JB update 3-4 months after GSM Galaxy Nexus users already get their update.

Great, thanks for asking tongue.gif. And I have an M, not the MAXX. Jelly Bean is in the midst (achievable if I get too antsy waiting on Verizon). And TBH, this phone is everything I expected my VZW GNex to be. I owned a GNex and while I fell in love with it, that phone with the official extended battery in it, and LTE disabled still could barely last me a day. WIth heavy usage, that would have been a laughable thought. I would have loved to tried the HSPA+ version, however. I'm still not totally satisfied with VZW.

That being said, I'm not writing off LG just yet. My one experience is completely irrelevant to this phone (and now that I remember, I had an LG Dare that worked like a charm) and I am hoping LG proves me wrong.

Also, I am very happy Google decided to avoid Verizon this time around. I fully agree with you. I'm still bitter. In the end, I wish my GNex turned out to be what my Moto has been for me so far.
 
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I understand that VZW wants control over their phones..I get that...but the point that I cant get over are the updates with the Gnex...All updates are suppose to come from Google for the nexus devices correct...Well that never happened when Jelly Bean came out. Im not sure that JB ever officially released on GNEX for Verizon..I only have it because I flashed it..Yet you would never see something like that happen with the iPhone...Verizon has no control over that phone when it comes to apps and updates..Everything comes through Apple.

Google needs to put their big boy pants on and step up to Verizon and play tough...Then again that could be exactly what they are doing by not offering a CDMA/LTE version of the Nexus 4.....

Well played Google....Well played!!!
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Unnecessarily high resolution, no slot for SD cards, can't take the battery out. Sounds like Apple products.

Gotta agree with this. This does sound like apple. Having 3 different sized products is fine, but it's the setup that seems terrible. We want SD card slots, why dont we have them? What logic is there to a non-removable battery? There's no way I'm complaining about the screen though - that's awesome tech wise. It's incredibly unnecessary for a tablet, but the tech is amazing.

As for the LTE, I'm still not buying it. I dont think ANYONE ever said "hey, you know what I want? Slightly more battery and a slightly lower cost but no LTE". It doesn't make sense. Also, why pick the OLD tech. Why not just release an LTE version, and simply say "deal with it". Or, release a GSM version, AND an LTE version, and let the customer decide based upon coverage.
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Great, thanks for asking tongue.gif. And I have an M, not the MAXX. Jelly Bean is in the midst (achievable if I get too antsy waiting on Verizon). And TBH, this phone is everything I expected my VZW GNex to be. I owned a GNex and while I fell in love with it, that phone with the official extended battery in it, and LTE disabled still could barely last me a day. WIth heavy usage, that would have been a laughable thought. I would have loved to tried the HSPA+ version, however. I'm still not totally satisfied with VZW.
That being said, I'm not writing off LG just yet. My one experience is completely irrelevant to this phone (and now that I remember, I had an LG Dare that worked like a charm) and I am hoping LG proves me wrong.
Also, I am very happy Google decided to avoid Verizon this time around. I fully agree with you. I'm still bitter. In the end, I wish my GNex turned out to be what my Moto has been for me so far.
Well to be fair, if your first phone was a Samsung Ace or one of those low-tier Android devices from ANY manufacturer. Of course you'd have a bad brand name.
But the LG Nexus 4 (and LG Optimus G) is a highend phone so I'm going to assume that it's going to be a good phone.

If it wasn't a good phone in terms of quality and fulfilling what Google wants in a Nexus phone they wouldn't of chosen them. It's going to be a good phone regardless simply because it lives under the Nexus name. Google wouldn't want to have a successor to a phone and have it be worse.
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I understand that VZW wants control over their phones..I get that...but the point that I cant get over are the updates with the Gnex...All updates are suppose to come from Google for the nexus devices correct...Well that never happened when Jelly Bean came out. Im not sure that JB ever officially released on GNEX for Verizon..I only have it because I flashed it..Yet you would never see something like that happen with the iPhone...Verizon has no control over that phone when it comes to apps and updates..Everything comes through Apple.

Google needs to put their big boy pants on and step up to Verizon and play tough...Then again that could be exactly what they are doing by not offering a CDMA/LTE version of the Nexus 4.....

Well played Google....Well played!!!
Galaxy Nexus on VZW doesn't come from Google. It does, but it has to be approved by Verizon. Verizon includes stuff onto their phones like the VZW apps and all that.
VZW did receive Jelly Bean officially, but it was really late. http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/21/verizon-galaxy-nexus-finally-lands-jelly-bean-update/ It came out roughly a month ago when GSM Galaxy Nexus received the update since Julyish (Summer).

I agree with you on that in regards to Apple are able to push their updates uniformally. Only if Google could do the same. Hopefully, T-Mobile will allow Google push updates directly without being too strict on Google for updates.

I also didn't like how VZW had exclusivity over the Galaxy Nexus for the first couple months. Exclusivity of phones on carriers is BAD! especially under the Nexus name when it stands for freedom of carrier restrictions. This might be the reason why N4 isn't on VZW this time around, maybe they couldn't reach a agreement or something? All reasons are unknown. Personally for me it doesn't matter because I'm on T-Mobile but for others it is.
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Unnecessarily high resolution, no slot for SD cards, can't take the battery out. Sounds like Apple products.
Eight-core AMD processors are unnecessary. But yet it's there. It's innovation.
SDCards: /yawn......
Battery: It's for wireless charging.

What's wrong with Apple products particilarily with the iPhone? Nothing is wrong with the phone. It sells well. The only reason why people dislike them (including myself) is because: 1) Patent Troll 2) Arrogant leadership within the company and so forth.

But overlooking that, they make good products that reaches to the 'average consumer.'
Edited by zephiK - 10/30/12 at 10:42am
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I understand that VZW wants control over their phones..I get that...but the point that I cant get over are the updates with the Gnex...All updates are suppose to come from Google for the nexus devices correct...Well that never happened when Jelly Bean came out. Im not sure that JB ever officially released on GNEX for Verizon..I only have it because I flashed it..Yet you would never see something like that happen with the iPhone...Verizon has no control over that phone when it comes to apps and updates..Everything comes through Apple.
Google needs to put their big boy pants on and step up to Verizon and play tough...Then again that could be exactly what they are doing by not offering a CDMA/LTE version of the Nexus 4.....
Well played Google....Well played!!!

They finally did. My brother is using my GNex now, and he finally got JB around the end of last month/beginning of this month. He does say it was a very very good improvement, though.

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Well to be fair, if your first phone was a Samsung Ace or one of those low-tier Android devices from ANY manufacturer. Of course you'd have a bad brand name.
But the LG Nexus 4 (and LG Optimus G) is a highend phone so I'm going to assume that it's going to be a good phone.
If it wasn't a good phone in terms of quality and fulfilling what Google wants in a Nexus phone they wouldn't of chosen them. It's going to be a good phone regardless simply because it lives under the Nexus name. Google wouldn't want to have a successor to a phone and have it be worse.
Galaxy Nexus on VZW doesn't come from Google. It does, but it has to be approved by Verizon. Verizon includes stuff onto their phones like the VZW apps and all that.
VZW did receive Jelly Bean officially, but it was really late. http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/21/verizon-galaxy-nexus-finally-lands-jelly-bean-update/ It came out roughly a month ago when GSM Galaxy Nexus received the update since Julyish (Summer).
I agree with you on that in regards to Apple are able to push their updates uniformally. Only if Google could do the same. Hopefully, T-Mobile will allow Google push updates directly without being too strict on Google for updates.
I also didn't like how VZW had exclusivity over the Galaxy Nexus for the first couple months. Exclusivity of phones on carriers is BAD! especially under the Nexus name when it stands for freedom of carrier restrictions. This might be the reason why N4 isn't on VZW this time around, maybe they couldn't reach a agreement or something? All reasons are unknown. Personally for me it doesn't matter because I'm on T-Mobile but for others it is.
Eight-core AMD processors are unnecessary. But yet it's there. It's innovation.
SDCards: /yawn......
Battery: It's for wireless charging.
What's wrong with Apple products particilarily with the iPhone? Nothing is wrong with the phone. It sells well. The only reason why people dislike them (including myself) is because: 1) Patent Troll 2) Arrogant leadership within the company and so forth.
But overlooking that, they make good products that reaches to the 'average consumer.'

Very true wink.gif. Touche. I'm curious to see how much the wireless charging pad will be, though.
 
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They finally did. My brother is using my GNex now, and he finally got JB around the end of last month/beginning of this month. He does say it was a very very good improvement, though.
Very true wink.gif. Touche. I'm curious to see how much the wireless charging pad will be, though.
Haha didn't mean to be a touche. Yeah it's kind of weird how they didn't just include it. Hoping it's not too expensive and around the ~$35-$50 range.
All it really is is a dock that allows you to dock the phone onto this orb. So it's kinda like magnetic towards the back of your phone. Still cool but it all comes down to how much it will be.
I think I'm more concerned on their battery technology and to see if it actually makes a difference or not.
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I'm definitely getting a Nexus 4 on release day. I'm finally coming up from a feature (dumb) phone and lack of LTE doesn't concern me in the slightest. I do find it peculiar it's offered in 8/16GB instead of 16/32GB; even with the 16GB variety i either have to get a separate PMP or tote around USB sticks. The only things I don't like about his phone is 1) non-user friendly battery 2) glass back. $350 is an incredibly good price, although i wouldn't mind paying $50 more for a 32GB version with a removable battery.
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Now that I can get a nexus 4 for so cheap I think I can go contract-less. Can anyone give me advice on a good non-contract plan or prepaid with talk, text and data? by the way I live in Southern California.
look into straight talk. $45 a month for unlimited text, talk and data. They use at&ts GSM network so the coverage is pretty good. This is what I plan on using with my N4
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As for the LTE, I'm still not buying it. I dont think ANYONE ever said "hey, you know what I want? Slightly more battery and a slightly lower cost but no LTE". It doesn't make sense. Also, why pick the OLD tech. Why not just release an LTE version, and simply say "deal with it". Or, release a GSM version, AND an LTE version, and let the customer decide based upon coverage.
I'll say it, I want better battery life and lower cost and don't give 2 shakes about LTE. considering the upcharge for LTE tablets is ~$100 or more, I wouldn't call that 'slightly' lower either
Edited by irun4edmund - 10/30/12 at 11:06am
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"Hell no" to Moto device. They aren't to be trusted at all.

Does anyone know if the Nexus 10 comes with SD? I'm guessing not, which is a huge down side.
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"Hell no" to Moto device. They aren't to be trusted at all.
Does anyone know if the Nexus 10 comes with SD? I'm guessing not, which is a huge down side.
Doesn't come with a microSD. Alternatively, you can USB OTG later.

In terms of Moto, they make really good hardware but when it comes to software side. They do a terrible job at keeping their devices updated to the latest Android version.
One thing Motorola got going for them is that they make REALLY good basebands.
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This partnership will be good for LG's reputation for sure.

Checkout all news about the N4, everyone complains "Why LG and not Samsung..." rolleyes.gif
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