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why is there so much hate on the 2 year contract subsidized phones? I am happy with my carrier, pay 63 bucks a month for my line with unlimited data + my wife's phone with 2gb and really good service. I dont care that I cant switch, I wouldnt anyways. When this contract is up Ill sign another and get a phone for cheap.

Am I missing something? Do people really switch carriers that often?
     
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why is there so much hate on the 2 year contract subsidized phones? I am happy with my carrier, pay 63 bucks a month for my line with unlimited data + my wife's phone with 2gb and really good service. I dont care that I cant switch, I wouldnt anyways. When this contract is up Ill sign another and get a phone for cheap.
Am I missing something? Do people really switch carriers that often?

well for one it locks you down in one carrier for 2 years.......

also when buying on contract phones *cough (Verizon GNexus) the carriers delay the updates so you can't get the latest version.

additionally its been calculated; (I can't remember where the breakdown thing is) but on contract you pay slightly more vs coughing up at the beginning for a new phone then a data plan.
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why is there so much hate on the 2 year contract subsidized phones? I am happy with my carrier, pay 63 bucks a month for my line with unlimited data + my wife's phone with 2gb and really good service. I dont care that I cant switch, I wouldnt anyways. When this contract is up Ill sign another and get a phone for cheap.
Am I missing something? Do people really switch carriers that often?

The contracts are expensive. Now, T-mobile's bring your own phone promotion is decently priced but you have to bring your own phone obviously.
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why is there so much hate on the 2 year contract subsidized phones? I am happy with my carrier, pay 63 bucks a month for my line with unlimited data + my wife's phone with 2gb and really good service. I dont care that I cant switch, I wouldnt anyways. When this contract is up Ill sign another and get a phone for cheap.
Am I missing something? Do people really switch carriers that often?

I don't think it's that, but take this into perspective. Once your contract is up, the only thing that requires you to renew your contract is getting another subsidized phone.

The Galaxy Nexus on Verizon was $299 under contract, $650+ without. Granted, it had 32GB of internal storage, but I find that totally irrelevant in this case. The fact that you can get a premium unlocked phone now for not much more than that of a subsidized phone can be appealing. While it is still much out of the price range of the general population, it is definitely more achievable, and you have no liability or required loyalty to any carrier.

I myself upgrade my phone more often than my PC. It's not that I'm generally unhappy with the phones I buy, I just like having a new toy every so often, and it's something I use to it's fullest potential. In the past 4 years I've owned an iPhone 3G, AT&T iPhone 4, HTC Inspire, Samsung Galaxy SII Skyrocket, VZW Galaxy Nexus, VZW iPhone 4, HTC One X, and my current phone is a Motorola Razr M (AT&T iPhone 4 and Razr M are among the best purchases of my short life). Keep in mind, all but one of these phones were bought out of contract, with a couple being trades or bought used/secondhand.

I'm still not completely satisfied with VZW, so come this time next year, when my contract is up, this will be the type of phone that catches my attention. Even with the lack of LTE (AT&T's HSPA+ speeds are comparable to VZW's LTE in my area), it's still a more appealing phone.

So while it might be people who switch carriers a lot (this phone is compatible with many GSM carriers), it could just simply be for piece of mind.
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The contracts are expensive. Now, T-mobile's bring your own phone promotion is decently priced but you have to bring your own phone obviously.

This is also a good point. I'm actually surprised T-Mobile will charge people $199 for the Nexus 4 on top of signing a new, 2-year contract. Terrible deal to save potentially $100-150.
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well for one it locks you down in one carrier for 2 years.......
also when buying on contract phones *cough (Verizon GNexus) the carriers delay the updates so you can't get the latest version.
additionally its been calculated; (I can't remember where the breakdown thing is) but on contract you pay slightly more vs coughing up at the beginning for a new phone then a data plan.

These are also great points.

And I'll break it down, now:

Price-per-month of a GNex: Voice and Text + 2GB Data is $100 before fees and taxes.

This is actually more expensive now because of the new Share Everything plans. In the state of NC, with taxes and fees, you'll be shelling out around $110 per month. After 24 months, that's $2,640. Then on top of that, the device was $299 to boot. Again, with NC state tax (7%) this comes to about $320. You've almost dropped 3 grand on a phone that you signed on for 2 years with.

Versus the cost of the phone unsubsidized at $650. If you were even able to get it to work on something like Straight Talk that offers Unlimited Everything for $45 a month, with the cost of the phone and a $45 plan over 24 months, you've spent about $1800; less than two-thirds of going with a subsidized phone.
Edited by pez - 10/30/12 at 5:45pm
 
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Sorry guys but the constant talk about the Nexus 4 and the same arguments is kind of getting old, no offense. Maybe because I don't have a need or budget for smartphone, so I don't really care about it.

Who is interested in the Nexus 10? Those specs look insane and being one of the first Android 4.2 devices is pretty sweet. That must be some insane GPU with high bandwidth if it can handle 2560x1600 which my sig rig us running now with my Dell U3011. The tablet market is really heating up with all the OS players now having first party hardware and software (MS Surface Pro & RT, Google Nexus 10 & 7, Apple iPad & iPad Mini). The pricing also looks really good compared to the iPad with mostly comparable or better specs, at least until a head to head review with actual performance, and similar capacities being $100 cheaper. The thorn in Google's side is the low amount of tablet optimized apps.

Also the new Nexus 7 32GB is shaking up the price bracket with the 16GB now being $199 and the Cellular model coming in at only $299 (compared to the iPad Mini 32GB 4G at $559).
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It's officially time to retire the nexus s for the 8gb N4! I can't wait!!!
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It's officially time to retire the nexus s for the 8gb N4! I can't wait!!!

Same here but im getting the 16 gb version. thumb.gif
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Sorry guys but the constant talk about the Nexus 4 and the same arguments is kind of getting old, no offense. Maybe because I don't have a need or budget for smartphone, so I don't really care about it.
Who is interested in the Nexus 10? Those specs look insane and being one of the first Android 4.2 devices is pretty sweet. That must be some insane GPU with high bandwidth if it can handle 2560x1600 which my sig rig us running now with my Dell U3011. The tablet market is really heating up with all the OS players now having first party hardware and software (MS Surface Pro & RT, Google Nexus 10 & 7, Apple iPad & iPad Mini). The pricing also looks really good compared to the iPad with mostly comparable or better specs, at least until a head to head review with actual performance, and similar capacities being $100 cheaper. The thorn in Google's side is the low amount of tablet optimized apps.
Also the new Nexus 7 32GB is shaking up the price bracket with the 16GB now being $199 and the Cellular model coming in at only $299 (compared to the iPad Mini 32GB 4G at $559).

I'm actually surprised Anand hasn't jumped on the Exynos 5250 yet, probably because Google hasn't provided them yet with a review sample of the Nexus 10. I am anxious to see how the A15 and Mali-T604 stacks up against the rest, as well as how the screen compares to that of the iPad. A 2560x1600 PLS resolution must be insanely good, especially at that price point.
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Only having 16GB as the max amount of memory on the phone is a major setback, and just plain stupid on Googles part. Also 4.2 will never see my Xoom, I'll be damned if I am forced away from the tablet UI. I didn't buy a tablet to use as a phone. First MS screwing with UI's and now Google.

My Galaxy Nexus 32GB LTE version is here to stay for a long time in my pocket.
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I'm actually surprised Anand hasn't jumped on the Exynos 5250 yet, probably because Google hasn't provided them yet with a review sample of the Nexus 10. I am anxious to see how the A15 and Mali-T604 stacks up against the rest, as well as how the screen compares to that of the iPad. A 2560x1600 PLS resolution must be insanely good, especially at that price point.

The A15 dual will get whooped by Krait pro (which is quad core A15), but the GPU's will probably be neck and neck, but I expect T604 to be a bit faster.
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