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I wonder if they are abandoning a sinking ship. (Not saying it is. They have insider info we don't)
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Jumping ship before it sinks. The company is simply not the same after Jobs passed and I think its executives are realizing it.

I don't think Apple will ever "sink", but now that the pioneers are gone, I fully expect Apple to slowly loose its edge and fall into place with its rivals. They either need to find more brilliant people or re-evaluate their design philosophies and business practices, because they can only ride on reputation and status quo for so long.
 
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Jumping ship before it sinks. The company is simply not the same after Jobs passed and I think its executives are realizing it.

I don't think Apple will ever "sink", but now that the pioneers are gone, I fully expect Apple to slowly loose its edge and fall into place with its rivals. They either need to find more brilliant people or re-evaluate their design philosophies and business practices, because they can only ride on reputation and status quo for so long.

They likely won't sink indefinitely, too much disposable cash on hand; they're much better off right now than they ever had been before the iPod. By "sink" I mean they're going to lose a tremendous amount of value, investors, and customers with the direction they're headed product-wise.
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Jumping ship before it sinks. Despite my disdain of Apple, I KNOW they've been very successful. The company is simply not the same after Jobs passed and I think its executives are realizing it. From absolutely opposing releasing iPads and iPods in all different sizes, now we get an iPad mini. Really? I really doubt iPad owners are going to switch down to an iPad mini; just as I doubt anyone that wants an iPad wants a mini over a full-sized iPad. Of course the price will always be a factor which is what the goal is: sell it to those that can't afford a full-sized iPad.

Steve Jobs said that a 7" tablet isn't something he thought people would buy, and that it didn't make sense. Based on how well 7" tablets have done I think it's safe to say that he was wrong and that Apple has realized that. I don't believe releasing an iPad Mini was a mistake, there's a market there, why wouldn't they want part of it? Especially because it introduces no OS fragmentation, no new resolution, no new aspect ratio, no new connectors, etc.
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post #15 of 34
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Steve Jobs said that a 7" tablet isn't something he thought people would buy, and that it didn't make sense. Based on how well 7" tablets have done I think it's safe to say that he was wrong and that Apple has realized that. I don't believe releasing an iPad Mini was a mistake, there's a market there, why wouldn't they want part of it? Especially because it introduces no OS fragmentation, no new resolution, no new aspect ratio, no new connectors, etc.

People love cheap stuff. If N7 was not $199 it would have not sold. Also part of it selling it was because of being Android.
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post #16 of 34
I think Apple will remain afloat for a very long time. Being the most valuable company in the world has its perks (like being able to significantly down size and cut costs).

However, their executive shakeup may make investors nervous. A company that has turmoil at the top-end of management will trickle down to the other employees in a very bad way if it remains that way. I am hoping that this isn't the beginning of the "end" of Apple (take that term with a grain of salt. Apple is not dying any time soon.) I do hope that this will make them rethink their position in the market, though. They are not invincible by any stretch of the imagination, and this proves it.
Edited by Mad Pistol - 10/29/12 at 5:42pm
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I can only imagine he has a non-compete clause in his contract......................


Well Apple, here's another shovel. It's a bit bigger and should help you dig your grave faster than your current one.
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post #18 of 34
Basically, this means that iOS and OS X will not be that skeuomorphic anymore. Good lord, this is what I've been waiting for!

John Ive, I'll be anticipating your iOS overhaul! biggrin.gif
post #19 of 34
According to this NYT article, they were fired for being D-bags.

The core of Apple is rotten:
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the relationship between Mr. Forstall and Mr. Ive had soured to a point that the two executives would not sit in the same meeting room together.
Are they running a multi-billion dollar business, or are they in kindergarten?
post #20 of 34
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I'm guessing that some of the execs weren't happy about how the iPhone 5 and iOS 6 launches went and are shaking things up. They may also be frustrated with a lack of anything that has been a real game-changer in a couple of years now. The company is still doing really well, but they've lacked anything really exciting for a little while now IMO.

These execs would of still seen the hardware and software, so they must of had a chance to tell the that it's not ready.
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