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Originally Posted by willis888 View Post

According to this NYT article, they were fired for being D-bags.

The core of Apple is rotten:
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the relationship between Mr. Forstall and Mr. Ive had soured to a point that the two executives would not sit in the same meeting room together.
Are they running a multi-billion dollar business, or are they in kindergarten?

Interesting quote from that NYT article:
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After an outcry among iPhone customers about bugs in the company’s new mobile maps service, Mr. Forstall refused to sign a public apology over the matter, dismissing the problems as exaggerated, according to people with knowledge of the situation who declined to be named discussing confidential matters.

Instead, Timothy D. Cook, Apple’s chief executive, in September signed the apology letter to Apple customers over maps.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204840504578087192497916304.html

another article.
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Apple Inc. executive Scott Forstall was asked to leave the company after he refused to sign his name to a letter apologizing for shortcomings in Apple's new mapping service, according to people familiar with the matter.

The incident was the latest clash between Mr. Forstall, who oversaw Apple's mobile software unit, and other executives at the company. It led to one of the most significant management shake-ups in Apple's recent history and its most sweeping changes under Chief Executive Tim Cook.

Apple announced the departure of Mr. Forstall on Monday along with the unrelated departure of its new retail chief, John Browett. People familiar with the matter said Mr. Browett was also asked to leave.


asked to leave because of not signing the letter apologizing for Apple maps.
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post #23 of 34
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Breakneck pace? So just barely keeping up with your competition in the mobile market is now considered breakneck? Does that mean Samsung and HTC are at decapitation pace?

I believe the statement had to do more with the number of product launches and their ever growing stock prices, and not specific product features.

As for Forstall, according to several sources he simply refused to apologize for what happen with their maps. Frankly, I think it looks great on Apple for ousting him.
    
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I believe the statement had to do more with the number of product launches and their ever growing stock prices, and not specific product features.
As for Forstall, according to several sources he simply refused to apologize for what happen with their maps. Frankly, I think it looks great on Apple for ousting him.

Has to be it. Making a few minor changes to an extremely small product line each year is hardly anything to get amazed about. Next years changes? Squared corners! Brilliant.

If anything this is for the better. A few more people should go and a few people that can actual make some real progress at the company would be lovely. Changing hardware and making their laptops (and everything else) smaller really isn't worth a yearly update. Especially when they don't make the machine powerful enough to handle the high resolution display.
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"Scott Forstall was shown the door, but due to an unfortunate mapping error he was ushered into a broom cupboard"
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post #26 of 34
^Haha good dig!

Scott Forstall was the DRI responsible for Maps in it's iOS debut and yet he failed to take the blame for it. As well as supposedly being a knob to the rest of the exec team with his "power grabs"... I think it will be a good change. Bring on the Reign of Jony Ives... Totally looking forward to the new iOS, it's going to look fabulous!

In terms of John Browett leaving, kinda wasn't a logical hire anyways... Hiring the ex-CEO of a discount retail chain to oversee one of the biggest premium brands out there... Strange call...
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Can't wait to see the effects Ivy has on iOS as a result of this reconstructing.
    
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I knew things will get messy when Steve Job left Earth. =( This is bad for Apple. meh. To be honest, iPhone 4 was best made quality compare to other Apple iPhone generations.. That's just my thoughts
 
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So Apple stock going up or down in the weeks after this? My put option doesn't happen until November...
     
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So Apple stock going up or down in the weeks after this? My put option doesn't happen until November...

I sold my stock in Apple several years ago, a decision I regret. However, rest assured my fellow forum soldier, as the stock market has been closed because of Hurricane Sandy. See, Hurricane Ivy got saucy and didn't like that Hurricane Sandy ran cooler than it. So Hurricane Ivy got her boys together and threw a shakedown on Hurricane Sandy. Hurricane Sandy has been terribly ill and thus is coughing up immense amounts of water all throughout the north-eastern seaboard.
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