Originally Posted by lacunacraft
Thanks for the build list Dimaggio. that looks very solid as well. I just wish i had a way of getting an os for cheaper, but if wishes were fishes i would have a whole lot of them.
xd_1771. I play mostly league of legends and minecraft. I would like to play Starcraft 2, Deus Ex, etc. but my laptop obviously can't handle that. I also do eventually want to do streaming, but i know that would be a lot more hardware intensive and will probably be an upgrade down the line. This is really just a baseline rig for me to build off of. I mean, i am really only starting with a monitor and nothing else. I am definitely considering raising my budget if really needed. I posted this in the amd section due to amd currently having better prices. also am3+ upgrade path would be nice.
From a CPU standpoint, this is actually a pretty difficult wish list. Streaming requires CPU power, and can use multiple threads. SC2 requires CPU power, with high per-core performance (and can only use 2 cores). So for playing SC2 (the other games it matters less, they're easier to run), Intel is your best bet. But if you want to stream, you're going to need a quad-core at minimum. That means paying more for at least an i5-3450, or accepting somewhat worse SC2 performance and going with AMD.
The main problem is that there isn't a processor in the world that can manage a consistent 60 fps in late game SC2 (when maxed armies are running up against each other). FPS performance for even the best processors dips into the mid-40s, and streaming cuts into that more. Now that's still manageable, but in general folks have problems with team games running AMD processors, and have problems even in 1v1 games when streaming 480p+, problems enough that at least minor slowdows will occur on a regular basis. Will this still be a problem with the new AMD chips - almost certainly. But then, you're pretty much not going to stream SC2 at all on an i3.
There is good news. The main part is that most of this pertains only to SC2 - because SC2 + streaming is the perfect storm of CPU drain. Enough so that many of the extremely high quality SC2 streams are actually two-computer operations (one to run the game, one to encode the stream). Other games are not so much of a problem. LoL requires virtually no hardware power to run well, and you could probably play LoL & stream it on an i3 running integrated graphics. Also, most of the games you listed do not require much in the way of graphics power, so you could get a cheaper GPU if you wanted to.
If SC2/minecraft is what you play (or plan to play) all day long, and you're only kind of thinking about streaming but could do without it, the i3 is your best bet.
If streaming is something you really want to do and SC2 is just a "maybe I'll play that" thought, then you should go with an fx-6300 or fx-8300 (see xd's post above). It will be an excellent solution for you.
If you want it all without risking your budget too much, and you're willing to overclock, I'd do the following:
1) Check with AMD-knowledgeable forumers to see if the mobo XD recommended is good for a decent overclock. I assume it is because he recommended it, but can't verify that myself.
2) Take my list & replace the CPU & mobo with the fx-6300 & mobo recommended by xd above
3) Get a cheap aftermarket cooler like a xigmatek gaia, and possibly upgrade the PSU to something like a Rosewill Green 530w (not sure if that last is actually needed)
4) Cut down GPU cost to a $130-140ish GPU if necessary
5) Overclock the fx-6300 & enjoy - it might not be optimal for SC2, but you should be able to game and stream pretty well. You might find it does everything you want it to do.
P.S. Regarding OS - if you're a student you should be able to get one cheap or near free.
P.P.S If you don't want to overclock but really do want to stream - you should get take my list but replace the i3 with an i5-3450 or 3470. It'll cost, but you'll be set for most streaming situations.Edited by MisterFred - 10/29/12 at 10:51pm