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I'm a low sens FPS player and I like to claw/palm grip my mouse. Over the past 3 years, I've gone through several mice (MX518, Deathadder 3.5G, SS Xai, PT Valor and the CM Spawn)

About a month ago, I accidentally spilled coffee over my Coolermaster Spawn rendering the side buttons useless, and just yesterday, I noticed that the red paint was literally peeling off. So I've decided it's time for me to upgrade. The mouse I loved the most was my old DA, the sensor was absolutely perfect but I felt the bulbous shape and awkward centre of gravity was holding me back.

I'm currently leaning towards the Roccat Savu but I'm not sold on the shape, I heard it has a great sensor though. Please help me, I don't want to make the mistake of buying another Valor ;p
post #2 of 17
If you wanna try a new Mouse and loved the DeathAdder I highly recommend the Zowie EC1 eVo.

I have this Mouse, cause I am playing with the right hand also from time to time and will do it more consistent in the Future cause it works for me but needs Training. For me the ec1 evo is simple the better Deathadder.
The Shape of the EC1 evo lets you a lil bit more room for a bigger Handsize and feels more comfortable to me than the DA especially while palming the mouse really relaxed.

The optical ADNS 3090 in this Mouse works good and clean as you expect it from a consistent and clean Sensor and the LOD is a Dream.

The whole Construction of this Mouse belongs to the Upperclass.

The Clickcontrol is excellent.

Plus the build in Huanos are nice to control and feel much more responsive than in the Zowie AM because of the Construction.
Mousewheel is excellent too.

For me it beats the DA in a few Points, but that's just my personal Opinion and I have both and know them.
For me the EC1 evo has no single weak point compared to the DA, but I could count you two or three of the Deathadder compared to the ec1 evo.

The DA has a high LOD, the ec1 not. The ec1 evo has the more comfortable Shape even if they have almost a identical Size and one really cool thing is you can do all your Settings on the evo hardwarebased without the need of any freaking drivers.

That's why appreciate Zowie so much, cause they earn the Respect of a competitive Gamersight with what they are doing and they do exactly the right thing.

Try it and you will love it.

How said, personal Opinion and I dont tell you ****. Not that the Deathadderlovers hit me but I have them both and know them good enough. smile.gif
Edited by mousefan - 10/29/12 at 8:26pm
post #3 of 17
You know I am just trying a Kone XTD for fun because I was always interested to try a Kone and spend all my freaking money for pc stuff in the last months.

So good as no alcohol, no ****ty useless drugs, no Sex and I don't party, but I got my mice and the PC Stuff ,Games and my Mom and my Dog which love me. haha XD

And I am 31 Years old by the way. I make my own Dreams come true. lol

Nerdy Life and you know how we do it? For real Son. XD

But you can believe I know about the real masterpieces when we talk about mice and the ec1 evo is a clear ace. wink.gif
Edited by mousefan - 10/29/12 at 8:52pm
post #4 of 17
It regards of the Zowie EC mice.

To me the LOD is 1mm to low. But it works fine with mouse pads without graphics.

The switches are very usable for the skilled FPS player. They provide distinct feedback. Yes they are noticeably stiffer than Omrons, but they allow better control because of that. For FPS they are fine for most people. For daily desktop usage maybe not so much or for games like Starcraft and League of Legends.

The same could be said for the optical scroll wheel. I like it for FPS. I am not sure how I feel about it when using a web browser. Most people are used to the mechanical scroll wheels, so they will likely dislike it because it is different. There are less notches in total compared to the mechanical in the DeathAdder. This is good because it will can stop you from leaving the wheel between notches which causes accidental/negligent actuation. When mechanicals wear out (like my DeathAdder) they can be more prone to this.

The size of the EC2 may suit your grips style more than the EC1. It is a few millimeters narrower, but a lot shorter. So it kind of makes you want to palm it while having you fingers bent (claw). You could palm or claw. It looks the same size as the DeathAdder, but the shape is much different, in a good way.
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this might be a good option for the kind of grip you are describing.

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Originally Posted by Concept_357 View Post

I'm a low sens FPS player and I like to claw/palm grip my mouse. Over the past 3 years, I've gone through several mice (MX518, Deathadder 3.5G, SS Xai, PT Valor and the CM Spawn)
About a month ago, I accidentally spilled coffee over my Coolermaster Spawn rendering the side buttons useless, and just yesterday, I noticed that the red paint was literally peeling off. So I've decided it's time for me to upgrade. The mouse I loved the most was my old DA, the sensor was absolutely perfect but I felt the bulbous shape and awkward centre of gravity was holding me back.
I'm currently leaning towards the Roccat Savu but I'm not sold on the shape, I heard it has a great sensor though. Please help me, I don't want to make the mistake of buying another Valor ;p

Savu is an adorable mouse as long as you like its shape. To me it is almost perfect in every sense. However, I can't help you on the grip, it's a personal thing.
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If you wanna try a new Mouse and loved the DeathAdder I highly recommend the Zowie EC1 eVo.

What OP said of DA: bulbous shape and awkward centre of gravity - he is clearly not fond of the shape of DA wink.gif
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Need to throw in that the savu weight is also not perfectly balanced, it is a little more heavy in the back.
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I'm almost completely sold on the Savu at this point, I really want to try it out but none of my local stores carry it.

And also, for some reason the Savu is ridiculously expensive here in Canada. $70+. NCIX has a deal right now on the Savu for $60 so I think I might order it this week smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Concept_357 View Post

I'm a low sens FPS player and I like to claw/palm grip my mouse. Over the past 3 years, I've gone through several mice (MX518, Deathadder 3.5G, SS Xai, PT Valor and the CM Spawn)
About a month ago, I accidentally spilled coffee over my Coolermaster Spawn rendering the side buttons useless, and just yesterday, I noticed that the red paint was literally peeling off. So I've decided it's time for me to upgrade. The mouse I loved the most was my old DA, the sensor was absolutely perfect but I felt the bulbous shape and awkward centre of gravity was holding me back.
I'm currently leaning towards the Roccat Savu but I'm not sold on the shape, I heard it has a great sensor though. Please help me, I don't want to make the mistake of buying another Valor ;p

The Spawn is pretty unique in it's shape, is one of the few on that kind of shape with a decent sensor.

Maybe this Qpad will do the trick, the only flaw I can find are the cpi steps (no 800)...

http://www.qpad.com/products/mice/OM-75/#tech-spec


This one is an ambidexterous choice for clawgrip too (same sensor as Spawn and Savu):

http://www.geniusnet.com/wSite/ct?xItem=51773&ctNode=3605
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I'm almost completely sold on the Savu at this point, I really want to try it out but none of my local stores carry it.
And also, for some reason the Savu is ridiculously expensive here in Canada. $70+. NCIX has a deal right now on the Savu for $60 so I think I might order it this week smile.gif

I hope you haven't bought it yet at original price cause you can price match from NCIX at Tigerdirect or shop there for $45.99.
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3232783&SRCCODE=SHOPBOT&cm_mmc_o=2mHCjCmtB5_BfCjCVqHCjCdwwp

I suggest you price match it from NCIX cause NCIX is subject to a 15% restocking fee versus Tigerdirect's 20% restocking fee in-case you didn't like the mouse.
Edited by vibe123 - 10/30/12 at 7:08pm
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