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It's simple enough. Core 2.25 and hope for the best!

What exactly do you mean by "Core 2.25"?
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What exactly do you mean by "Core 2.25"?

If you fold on a GPU it will automatically update to the new core. You can check your core by looking though the logs. It will identify your core version before the start of every WU.

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If you fold on a GPU it will automatically update to the new core. You can check your core by looking though the logs. It will identify your core version before the start of every WU.

Odd. On my HFM, it shows only "15" as my Core ID on my 4 GPU folders.
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Does anyone care to make a proper guide on how to get this going?

Something I've been pondering for the last day or so.

There is an actual beta team that is supposed to be getting these WUs as part of the testing of the quick return bonus(QRB) for GPU WU's.
The actual beta testers have the same chance of being assigned the beta WUs as anyone else that enables the beta flag.
There is a limited supply of the beta WUs available.

The more of us that enable the beta flag, and pick up the beta WUs, the fewer actual beta testers get the WUs, which may cause problems for the project because not enough results are being returned by the actual beta testers.

I'm also not sure the p8057 beta WUs are even being used for anything but testing the QRB, it is likely that no actual science is being advanced.


Because it is likely that we are hurting the beta testing program, potentially delaying the deployment of QRB on regular GPU WUs, and that we are probably not advancing any science by folding the beta WU, I'm having serious reservations about non beta testers enabling the beta flag just for the chance of soaking up more points.
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post #95 of 841
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Something I've been pondering for the last day or so.
There is an actual beta team that is supposed to be getting these WUs as part of the testing of the quick return bonus(QRB) for GPU WU's.
The actual beta testers have the same chance of being assigned the beta WUs as anyone else that enables the beta flag.
There is a limited supply of the beta WUs available.
The more of us that enable the beta flag, and pick up the beta WUs, the fewer actual beta testers get the WUs, which may cause problems for the project because not enough results are being returned by the actual beta testers.
I'm also not sure the p8057 beta WUs are even being used for anything but testing the QRB, it is likely that no actual science is being advanced.
Because it is likely that we are possibly hurting the beta testing program, potentially delaying the deployment of QRB on regular GPU WUs, and that we are probably not advancing any science by folding the beta WU, I'm having serious reservations about non beta testers enabling the beta flag just for the chance of soaking up more points.

Actually, I've had the same thought. Whether or not I should even be getting these. And when I do what is it doing to the program.
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Actually, I've had the same thought. Whether or not I should even be getting these. And when I do what is it doing to the program.

Not to mention doing this on the Team Competition rigs. It SERIOUSLY skews the points for the competition.
post #97 of 841
Should we bring it up to BWG? I'm more than willing to disable the "beta" flag. Plus it would keep the competition a LOT more fair. It should be based on hardware and clocking, not luck! That's why I bought my card to begin with. And now that I have it I want to be able to prove the merit of my purchase with more than just blind luck!
post #98 of 841
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Odd. On my HFM, it shows only "15" as my Core ID on my 4 GPU folders.

As per my above post you have to read the logs. There are several versions of GPU core 15.

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Something I've been pondering for the last day or so.
There is an actual beta team that is supposed to be getting these WUs as part of the testing of the quick return bonus(QRB) for GPU WU's.
The actual beta testers have the same chance of being assigned the beta WUs as anyone else that enables the beta flag.
There is a limited supply of the beta WUs available.
The more of us that enable the beta flag, and pick up the beta WUs, the fewer actual beta testers get the WUs, which may cause problems for the project because not enough results are being returned by the actual beta testers.
I'm also not sure the p8057 beta WUs are even being used for anything but testing the QRB, it is likely that no actual science is being advanced.
Because it is likely that we are hurting the beta testing program, potentially delaying the deployment of QRB on regular GPU WUs, and that we are probably not advancing any science by folding the beta WU, I'm having serious reservations about non beta testers enabling the beta flag just for the chance of soaking up more points.

Then why have you been trying to figure out how to get these WUs if you want to speak negatively about it? I do not believe you would be complaining if you had these WUs and others did not. If you have "reservations" about people using the beta flag then don't be a hypocrite and take it off your GPU client. You are soaking up extra points with it on right now, just not to the extent of others. You know you would not be chaining together those 8018s without it, until now those were by far the best GPU WUs available. You would not have had the lead earlier this month without the beta flag.

 

Obviously they do not mind people getting them now. Before the servers went down a few days ago you had to have a Class C IP address to get them. BladeMaster01 figured it out and got the 8057s on his 470 but I could not obtain of these IPs and still do not have one. Now its just based on luck because there are several people around here now with them

 

I did absolutely nothing special to receive these WUs. I did not even know I had gotten one until the day after I had one and read Caleal's post in the BBB thread. There are no tricks or anything special to get these WUs it is just based on what assignment server you get on. Ask Mako he got lucky and is on them now too. I could be folding my last 8057 for the month right now and every other nVidia folder could finish the month folding them. 

 

How is this unfair when an i7/i5 folder gets connected to a better server and getting WUs worth 70k+ instead of 30-40k? Full Auto won recently because someone got lucky and connected to the right assignment server and blew everyone away with the work units they received.

 

BWG has even encouraged people to change their IPs in attempt to get better WUs. BladeMaster has even made a tutorial on how the assignment servers work.

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Odd. On my HFM, it shows only "15" as my Core ID on my 4 GPU folders.
Hit F11 to see the version numbers currently being used (under Core column, not Core ID). You can also look at the history (Ctrl+H) and see the version numbers for past units.
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^^ Agreed

 

Let me clear up a few things as well. If you're folding beta units you're basically beta testing as well. After all you return simulation results so it is still science. Spreading the WUs across donors might even speed up things as long as there's no major issue with these WUs Stanford must know about.  I mean the GPU is still folding atoms so what else should it be doing? They are not going to release a project to let clients fold dummy proteins...

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