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The motherboard features socket FM2, powered by an 8-phase digital PWM power supply to the APU socket, four DDR3 DIMM slots supporting 64 GB of dual-channel DDR3-1866 MHz memory, expansion slots that include PCI-Express 2.0 x16, PCI-Express 2.0 x4, x1, and legacy PCI; eight SATA 6 Gb/s ports, display outputs that include dual-link DVI, dual-link DisplayPort, and D-Sub. HD audio and gigabit Ethernet make for the rest of it.

source here

Awesome. Lets see Nvidia's response with a quadro motherboard thumb.gif
 
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source here
Awesome. Lets see Nvidia's response with a quadro motherboard thumb.gif

Not gonna happen. Nvidia's been out of the motherboard chipset market for years.
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was waiting for this to happen, this is where amd can make some good money finally.
full on workstation platform with hardware acceleration, and lack of discrete GPU, AMD will likely be pricing these very competitively, hopefully they will do well in the entry level workstation market.
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Pretty impressive for an mAtx form factor. But a PCI slot? Really?
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Pretty impressive for an mAtx form factor. But a PCI slot? Really?

plenty of hardware out there supported,like RAID cards wink.gif
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plenty of hardware out there supported,like RAID cards wink.gif

It is a relic...
Nobody would use a PCI RAID or any other kind of storage these days - unless he wanted to backup something from an old array or something weird like that...

Maximum through-output for PCI = 33Mhz x 4 bytes (32 bits) = 133MB/s. You can saturate that with modern HDD bursts.

There are a few specialized cards though that someone might need to use (anything from SCSI to firewire adapters that came bundled with old external devices for example), or an older sound card that you don't want to retire yet...usually drivers screw up these older hardware tho, not lack of a PCI slot.
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Cant wait to see the pricing on these, def going to be something to keep an eye on. I get the PCI slot because there are users out there that still have hardware that can connect to it, but it is very old lol.
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Originally Posted by Flying Toilet View Post

Pretty impressive for an mAtx form factor. But a PCI slot? Really?

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Originally Posted by Redwoodz View Post

plenty of hardware out there supported,like RAID cards wink.gif

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Originally Posted by dtolios View Post

It is a relic...
Nobody would use a PCI RAID or any other kind of storage these days - unless he wanted to backup something from an old array or something weird like that...


Maximum through-output for PCI = 33Mhz x 4 bytes (32 bits) = 133MB/s. You can saturate that with modern HDD bursts.
There are a few specialized cards though that someone might need to use (anything from SCSI to firewire adapters that came bundled with old external devices for example), or an older sound card that you don't want to retire yet...usually drivers screw up these older hardware tho, not lack of a PCI slot.
not pci, but I run a few PCI-X raid cards still (3ware 4 and 12 port cards)


It's too bad it's not a PCI-X slot like one of my workstations and my NAS have on board:
13-131-039-04.jpg

PCI-X @ 133MHz has 1.067 GB/s of bandwidth. (standard went up to 4.266 GB/s)
PCI has been capable of more than 133MB/s for so long, it's a shame no one ever cared - most cards are capable of at least 66MHz (266MB/s), and there was also 64bit 33MHz (also 266MB/s) and 64 bit 66MHz PCI (533MB/s)...

Heck, the 66MHz standard is part of PCI 2.1, which came about in 1995!

The only desktop I know of that used it was the ZIF G3 macs, which pre-dated AGP, and they used a dedicated 66MHz 32 bit PCI bus to boost performance (those machines also has the 33MHz 64 bit slots on board).
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True, but in this case we are dealing with a regular 32bit PCI slot.

Overall it should not be too bad - depending on retail pricing ofc:
  • "OK" CPU, would compete with pre-SB intel - not the fastest but, again, price talks.
  • Decent GPU - built-in GPU that will most likely blow low end dedicated nVidia offerings in OpenGL viewport performance (as most Radeons usually do), and depending on driver optimization will work ok for someone after a budget Maya, Sketchup, Blender etc box.
  • mATX - Kinda like that - wish AMD would provide better AM3+ mATX board selection with support for 32GB of memory or more...really hurts anybody trying to choose their FX 8 cores for smaller gaming machines or a bit more compact render nodes etc (hint-hint). Slot layout is not that bad.
  • 4x dimm slots with up to 64GB Ram - need for 64GB is unrealistic in a low-mid range workstation, but 32GB are relatively affordable.
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It is a relic...
Nobody would use a PCI RAID or any other kind of storage these days - unless he wanted to backup something from an old array or something weird like that...
Maximum through-output for PCI = 33Mhz x 4 bytes (32 bits) = 133MB/s. You can saturate that with modern HDD bursts.
There are a few specialized cards though that someone might need to use (anything from SCSI to firewire adapters that came bundled with old external devices for example), or an older sound card that you don't want to retire yet...usually drivers screw up these older hardware tho, not lack of a PCI slot.

not everything needs the bandwidth of pcie, its been around forever, and tons of good hardware still uses it.
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