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How much did the upgrade from vista to W7 cost?

This is all about the price, and good on MS to make it so low. That will help W8 be adopted faster.

IMO, until I have a touchscreen windows laptop/tablet, I'll just stick with W7.
    
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Unfortunately this has a lot to do with pricing.
Had they announced a new copy of Win 7 with SP2 slip stream for 15$ too, have a feeling sales would have been phenomenal as well.
I am pretty sure Win 7 made them a heck of a lot more money then Win 8 did at 10~40$ per purchase, considering low end Win 7 was 100$ at launch, and up to $300 for Ultimate.
Edit:
Ouch, their marketing for Win 8 alone is roughly 1.8$ Billion.
Its interesting to see people posting the "Unfortunately its only because of the price" thing.

Unfortunately?

I feel quite fortunate that the first OS that MS offers for a reasonable price for me to actually buy Windows for the first time in my life is one that I like.

Besides, since when is offering customers value, and them appreciating that value by reacting via strong sales an "unfortunate" turn of events?

Because people see what they want to see, many people will screw up the cause vs. correlation information from this, and determine what made it popular. The radical UI or the pricing, and since a lot of fans of Win 8 are so intent on trying to force Windows 8 changes down my throat rather than letting me choose, I honestly hope Windows 8 flops financially for Microsoft so they return back to what I consider good, productivity oriented non-media center, non-social networking front end, designed for flexibility and proper administration/control over ones computer. I am not afraid of speaking my mind. Windows 8 is a desperate attempt to capture the "mob" mentality. I am not a member of the mob, I like my computer to do things the way I like, and have grown accustomed to an operating system I have used for over 17 odd years. This is a joke of a UI to most of us older types. I am not even against the UI, I am pretty pissed at not being given a choice inherently. This is the Xbox generations operating system.

Unfortunately, again, people generally are very short sighted and narrow minded and will probably attribute the success of the OS as the changes to Windows ("UI et al.") vs. the better pricing. I welcome the new price scheme and hope that Windows 9 will introduce what I like again with the better pricing.
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Unfortunately this has a lot to do with pricing.
Had they announced a new copy of Win 7 with SP2 slip stream for 15$ too, have a feeling sales would have been phenomenal as well.
I am pretty sure Win 7 made them a heck of a lot more money then Win 8 did at 10~40$ per purchase, considering low end Win 7 was 100$ at launch, and up to $300 for Ultimate.
Edit:
Ouch, their marketing for Win 8 alone is roughly 1.8$ Billion.

Not much when you have $60 billion in retained earnings. They also offered Windows 7 for $50 pre-launch and free upgrades to those on Vista. Not sure what a Service Pack has to do with this, they've never charged for one.

I was just pointing out that had they just put Win7 Pro or Ultimate on sale, right now, with an incentive of all updates included (i.e. an updated disc of Windows 7) for 15$, it would sell like crazy.

Edit:
In fact going back, Windows 7 had more than 4 million pre-orders before even launch. I think Steve Ballmer screwed his numbers up Not sure how many were sold in Japan, but the entire country was sold out of Pro and Ultimate 36 hours post launch.
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lol @ everyone claiming those numbers include OEM sales...

I also upgraded for the 40. Price was a factor and they did it right, they charged a reasonable amount for users upgrading. It was a good strategy and I'm loving the OS. Im still trying to figure out the metro menu couple let peeves, but the desktop menu is still a desktop. Really liking the improvements so far.
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I got the $15 upgrade to Windows 8 Pro and I am enjoying it. The OS is overall, the same as Windows 7 if you take out the whole metro thing. The new start screen took some serious getting used to. However, once you learn all the new keyboard shortcuts, Windows 8 becomes a breeze to use.

I only had one minor conflict with the new interface besides the learning curve. There are some programs that absolutely have to be launched from the desktop. For me, I need to launch Google Chrome from the desktop in some cases because plugins are not supported in the metro version. No plugins means no Battlelog for Battlefield 3. Hopefully this will be resolved with future updates.

I solved this problem by installing Start8 and setting all the keyboard shortcuts to still operate the Windows 8 Start screen. This way I'm only using the classic start menu when I absolutely need it.
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I probably will sit out on Windows 8 unless I buy a new laptop or they come out with some compelling reason for me to get it.

Otherwise there really isn't a reason to upgrade....... yea it would be interesting, but I'm perfectly fine without it and my 40$ can be spent on some beer and a pizza XD
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You source showing that's included in this number?

Because that is how Microsoft has measured their sales of all their OS and other software products for the past 27 years. I seriously doubt they changed that just for Windows 8.
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Because people see what they want to see, many people will screw up the cause vs. correlation information from this, and determine what made it popular. The radical UI or the pricing, and since a lot of fans of Win 8 are so intent on trying to force Windows 8 changes down my throat rather than letting me choose, I honestly hope Windows 8 flops financially for Microsoft so they return back to what I consider good, productivity oriented non-media center, non-social networking front end, designed for flexibility and proper administration/control over ones computer. I am not afraid of speaking my mind. Windows 8 is a desperate attempt to capture the "mob" mentality. I am not a member of the mob, I like my computer to do things the way I like, and have grown accustomed to an operating system I have used for over 17 odd years. This is a joke of a UI to most of us older types. I am not even against the UI, I am pretty pissed at not being given a choice inherently. This is the Xbox generations operating system.
Unfortunately, again, people generally are very short sighted and narrow minded and will probably attribute the success of the OS as the changes to Windows ("UI et al.") vs. the better pricing. I welcome the new price scheme and hope that Windows 9 will introduce what I like again with the better pricing.
I was just pointing out that had they just put Win7 Pro or Ultimate on sale, right now, with an incentive of all updates included (i.e. an updated disc of Windows 7) for 15$, it would sell like crazy.

The problem is that you can say nothing of the cause conclusively either. As I pointed out earlier, Windows 7's launch saw incentives to upgrade as well(free upgrades, $50 pre-launch) and I will take it further and say that people were more willing to upgrade to Windows 7 because Vista was perceived poorly. Windows 7 had all of the advantages that Windows 8 doesn't have, so that really doesn't tip the pendulum in your favor either. Furthermore, Microsoft's marketshare for Windows 7 is pretty much saturated for end users. Everyone that wanted Windows 7, already has it.

Also: I find it funny that you try and make a causality argument at the beginning of your post and then end with a causality argument regarding Windows 7.
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Because people see what they want to see, many people will screw up the cause vs. correlation information from this, and determine what made it popular. The radical UI or the pricing, and since a lot of fans of Win 8 are so intent on trying to force Windows 8 changes down my throat rather than letting me choose, I honestly hope Windows 8 flops financially for Microsoft so they return back to what I consider good, productivity oriented non-media center, non-social networking front end, designed for flexibility and proper administration/control over ones computer. I am not afraid of speaking my mind. Windows 8 is a desperate attempt to capture the "mob" mentality. I am not a member of the mob, I like my computer to do things the way I like, and have grown accustomed to an operating system I have used for over 17 odd years. This is a joke of a UI to most of us older types. I am not even against the UI, I am pretty pissed at not being given a choice inherently. This is the Xbox generations operating system.
Unfortunately, again, people generally are very short sighted and narrow minded and will probably attribute the success of the OS as the changes to Windows ("UI et al.") vs. the better pricing. I welcome the new price scheme and hope that Windows 9 will introduce what I like again with the better pricing.
I was just pointing out that had they just put Win7 Pro or Ultimate on sale, right now, with an incentive of all updates included (i.e. an updated disc of Windows 7) for 15$, it would sell like crazy.

The problem is that you can say nothing of the cause conclusively either. As I pointed out earlier, Windows 7's launch saw incentives to upgrade as well(free upgrades, $50 pre-launch) and I will take it further and say that people were more willing to upgrade to Windows 7 because Vista was perceived poorly. Windows 7 had all of the advantages that Windows 8 doesn't have, so that really doesn't tip the pendulum in your favor either. Furthermore, Microsoft's marketshare for Windows 7 is pretty much saturated for end users. Everyone that wanted Windows 7, already has it.

Also: I find it funny that you try and make a causality argument at the beginning of your post and then end with a causality argument regarding Windows 7.

I never made a claim, I said others would infer a one dimensional argument. What I want is this OS to flop, so my perception of what makes a good OS will come back. That is what I was inferring. Good sales numbers will properly re-enforce the new changes that I don't like. That's where cause vs. correlation comes in and based off of experience good sales aren't always correctly reasoned.

I stipulate the pricing is one reason the sales are good, some people like the new changes etc, and I am sure there are other reasons as well. I was just pointing out that I am able to see a variety of reasons, while PR/Marketing teams end up clueless or one dimensional. Unfortunately only time will tell, which is why you are wrong about Windows 7s success.

While you are correct, Win7 had a great launch, but it did not maintain a good streak simply because Windows Vista came on to rough or because pre-launch sales were as good as Win8. In fact, Win 8 sales are really really good, where you can get it legally for as low as free for students, 10-15$ for upgrades, 40$ brand new, etc. etc.

Windows 7 was a solid success on all fronts based off of lessons learned, new pricing schemes to capture more economically varied users, power users, etc., and taking advantage of more powerful hardware and larger capacity memory formats, as well as under the hood improvements greatly anticipated and needed by everyone. Windows 2008 was just as successful. Windows 7 successes were greatly maintained over a long period of time, having a confirmed 650~million sales. So stating that I am biased towards Windows 7 is correct, it has produced a lot more evidence earning its continued success in my eyes. Windows 8 has stumbled since beta and has only continued to disappoint.
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Well I for one love the "metro ui" since its basicly just a full screen start menu, dont see the big deal about it.
and Im glad atleast the upgrades are selling.
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Really happy with Windows 8 atm. Did a clean install 4 days ago and have not looked back.. Still getting used to navigating Windows 8, but the more and more I am using it, the more I like it. And while I still do not really care for the Metro UI, it is growing on me somewhat. It's just not something I am used to yet. I now have have Windows 8 installed on my Netbook, laptop and my gaming desktop.

I took advantage of the $15 deal and can see why sales are as high as they are. Even at $40, it's a steal. Well worth the upgrade IMO.
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