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and meanwhile nvidia is working on a smartphone version of gtx780...
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hehe, this reminds me of intel's claims of 10ghz cpu's about 10 years ago. I expect another sideways breakthrough before we see 50 cores to a processor... something along the lines of amd's HSA. thumb.gif
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A knights corner die has 64 cores. The product in the picture is probably a partially disabled Knights Corner that Intel is using to develop on. I imagine the project is more about finding novel uses for MIC(Many Integrated Core) than an actual roadmapped phone chip.
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Originally Posted by mott555 View Post

And 45 - 47 cores will be idle most of the time because it's difficult or pointless to parallelize many tasks. I hope no one does that much multitasking on a phone.
On the plus side, you could probably fold on it.

Actually, I think Intel from the snippet alone sounds like they're working on some way to dedicate programs to available cores. So, instead of parallel threading it's parallel programs? I thought the whole reason that we went more cores in the first place was because it's faster/more efficient having a program with many threads?
     
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Intel should start making mainstream 6 core desktop processors first.
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And 45 - 47 cores will be idle most of the time because it's difficult or pointless to parallelize many tasks. I hope no one does that much multitasking on a phone.
On the plus side, you could probably fold on it.
I bet each core will be clocked at below 500mhz for heat and power issues. Batterys will be incinerated.
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Originally Posted by Socks keep you warm View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by mott555 View Post

And 45 - 47 cores will be idle most of the time because it's difficult or pointless to parallelize many tasks. I hope no one does that much multitasking on a phone.
On the plus side, you could probably fold on it.
I bet each core will be clocked at below 500mhz for heat and power issues. Batterys will be incinerated.

More likely that each core's frequency will be dynamically adjusted depending on load, heat, and power. Meaning a 2.5W 48-core part running a program optimized for 2 cores and then handling background processes with another 2 cores might have 44 cores completely shut down, 2 cores running the app in the foreground at 1.5GHz, consuming 1W each, and then the other two cores at 500MHz, consuming 250mW each. If one of the two cores running background stuff was no longer needed and was shut down, an extra 250mW would open up, and the cores running the foreground app could clock higher. Similarly, if more cores were needed for whatever reason, then some downclocking would have to occur to stay within TDP.

Considering that these could be coming to market in a decade I don't think clocks in the GHz range are that improbable. It'll probably be made on a 350pm graphene process tongue.gif

If what I said above was impractical and completely idiotic someone please correct me.
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I'll just leave this here for those who missed Intel demonstrating an 80 core CPU in 2007.

http://news.cnet.com/intel-shows-off-80-core-processor/2100-1006_3-6158181.html
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The computing elements are very basic and do not use the x86 instruction set used by Intel and Advanced Micro Devices' chips, which means Windows Vista can't be run on the research chip. Instead, the chip uses a VLIW (very long instruction word) architecture, a simpler approach to computing than the x86 instruction set.

There is no way Intel would simply scrap Larrabee after years (over a decade?) of research. Their crappy 2000-4000 integrated GPU's are obviously successors but who knows what they're working on in the dark depths of their R&D departments. After all the military had those 5GHz P4's they claimed didn't exist.
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A knights corner die has 64 cores. The product in the picture is probably a partially disabled Knights Corner that Intel is using to develop on. I imagine the project is more about finding novel uses for MIC(Many Integrated Core) than an actual roadmapped phone chip.

Just to clarify on the post here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larrabee_(microarchitecture)

I don't like quoting Wikipedia and I recommend further research.

However, I personally doubt Intel are capable of attaining over 2TFlop of performance with one of these chips, though these chips are much simpler than anything AMD and nVidia produce.
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