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Hello All,

I really hate to bother you guys with a build thread, since there are billions of these all over, but I really do need some help. I honestly have no idea what I am doing. Hardware has never been my thing. I thank you all in advance for even just taking the time to read this.

I am currently on a 13 year old computer. I have bought two computers, since this one, but none since about 9 years ago. The first one I bought ended up getting dropped down stairs, while moving, and that was the end of it. The second had a severe overheating problem, due to what should have been a recall level problem with it's build, and that got toasted this year with a motherboard failure. I managed to squeeze quite a bit of life out of it. I ended up back on my oldest and first computer.

I have been saving up for this, for a while. Depression ended up sapping my desire to game, plus anxiety, even in a game. I recently found out that I have Aspergers, with Social Anxiety Disorder and Severe Depression (With some Mixed Manic traits), mostly as a result of not being diagnosed until I was already full grown and had lived some life. The burden of carrying that and not knowing now feels a bit lifted and I really desire to get some real connection to the outside world, as I tend to close myself off and only be around a few select people. I miss games and would really love to be able to play any of them, but I don't have the finances to get this wrong or to build something that can't be upgraded.

I have been studying this for a few weeks and I plan to purchase towards the end of the month, when prices will probably drop a bit and Newegg will probably bring back price matching, so my build should end up a little below $2000. I won't be purchasing an optical drive (I have no desire for Blu Ray and I have a couple of old DVD Burners) and the harddrives I will likely price later on, so I am not that concerned with them, right now.

Anything is open to discussion, comments, or anything. I really do wish to learn and I will listen to anything, that anyone has to say. I'll add in some info to each thing, so you get an idea of what I am looking for.

Here they are (Prices quick approximations, as of today, at a couple of sites. I didn't deal shop and don't plan to until I go to buy):

Case: COOLER MASTER CM Storm Series Trooper (Around $145)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119245

I put some thought into the HAF X and HAF 932, plus the twin Storm Stryker. The HAF 932 seems like a lesser case, for barely less money. The Storm Styker has a window and lacks an ESATA port, for like $15 more. Between the HAF X and The Storm Trooper, I went with the one I thought looked better and had more features. I even wrote COOLER MASTER and they basically said, without saying directly, that the Storm Trooper is the best of the two.

I desire a full tower, as I plan to add many harddrives over time and I like the extra room and cooling options. This seems like a safe purchase, although I see many other cases being pushed all over, including some simpler Antec ones. I like the choice, but I'm not 100% behind it. I do get the feeling that a lot of it is just preference, so I will say that I doubt I will change, but I wouldn't ignore suggestions, either.

Motherboard: ASUS Maximus V FORMULA (Around $280)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131854

This I am torn on. I really want to try out an ROG board, but I am not sure it warrants the price. I know there are comparable boards for far less, but ROG seems cool as well. I think I can barely budget it in, especially if some prices drop for the holidays, but I am not sure it is the wisest choice. I looked at some Asus and Gigabyte boards and really couldn't pick one I liked more. I do want to take full advantage of the case choice and I do like many of the features, like the headphone amplification (I only use headphones), ROG software, and the WIFI/Bluetooth combo card. Nothing seems to make it worth the price, but I am not sure I desire a lesser board. I would love to hear of comparable boards that would work well with my setup.

Processor: Intel Core i5-3570K (Around $216)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

Not much to be said here. I don't think anyone will really argue it. I would mostly game and I really don't have any i7 favorable uses in my daily routine. I considered the i5-2500k, but decided on the barely more expensive i5-3570k.

CPU Cooling: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO (Around $29)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

I considered the Noctua NH-D14, but I am not sure that it is worth the extra $50, right now, for me. I did look at other options, as well. I might, later on, consider liquid cooling, but the winters here are fairly cold and I use this room, that is offset from my house, as an office. I usually block off most of the heat and let the temperature drop way down because I prefer the cold. I doubt I will need much cooling until next Summer and by then I might just pick up something to liquid cool.

With that said. If someone has a good suggestion for a well priced alternative or some approach that works well with my motherboard choice, I would love to hear it. I'm still learning, so any information is welcome.

Power Supply: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX850 V2 (Around $120)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139022

This I have no clue on. It was as bad as trying to pick a monitor. Too many choices, no clear cut winner. Do I need more powerful if I plan to use two video cards later? Is this a good choice? Can I do better for the money?

I did as much research as I could on it, but I don't know if I am happy with the choice or not. I just don't have the experience. I appreciate any input.

Video Card: ASUS ROG MATRIX Radeon HD 7970 Platinum (Around $500)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121671

This looks cool and I did read that it was better to go big than to try to get two lesser cards. This card just looks like the clear cut winner among the AMD line and I think I want to go with the cheaper Radeons over the Nvidia line, especially after reading all over the web about the power the 7970 is capable of.

With that said, I might be too drawn to this ROG stuff. Maybe the Toxic-X, Windforce, or Boost Edition cards are better choices? Perhaps I am wrong to look at the 7970 or even AMD in general. What do you guys think of the card? It seems like the perfect choice for a single card approach and maybe I can add another later on, down the line, when games start to pull a little ahead of it and the price has dropped.

RAM: Samsung MV-3V4G3/US (Around $42)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147096

I doubt anyone will argue this, at least not here. Might be completely gone someday, even though I still see it around. If I decide on it, I'll probably go with 16gb, even if it isn't needed. It certainly is cheap enough. I do some archiving and extracting, so I don't think it will hurt, although I do know that you don't need more than 8gb, at most. Cheap enough, though.

I looked at Corsair, Mushkin, Kingston, and G.Skill. This seems like a good choice. I was looking at 2x8gb kits before, but it seems like this is a good choice.

Mouse: Logitech G700 (Around $90)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104377

This was a tough call. My left hand is really weak, due to a childhood injury. I struggle with coordination. I tend to favor mice with many buttons, as I need my right hand to do as much as possible. I know you aren't supposed to get wireless gaming mice, but I haven't heard any complaints about this one and the 13 buttons are really nice. I looked at the Corsair m60, Corsair m90, Logitech G500, Logitech G9x, and a few others. This had the best mix of buttons and performance. I will probably played it wired in. I play all types of games, so I didn't really want a mouse focused on one type of game and suffering in others. I want FPS performance, but MMO button numbers.

Mouse Pad: SteelSeries Qck+ (Around $17)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826995021s

I actually haven't used a mouse pad in ten years. I need a new desk though and I really want to switch over to a mouse pad. I haven't decided on the desk, so I might need a smaller one to fit on a tray or might go with big on top of the desk. This seemed like a logical choice, but I took a hard look at plastic ones and might go with the SteelSeries 9hd, since I tend to run the mouse off everything. I'm not sure it is worth the cost and I may not end up going with a mouse pad at all, but I do think this one looks nice.

Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K90 (Around $90)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823816002

A bit of a tough choice. I actually was originally going to do a Corsair mouse and keyboard combo, but I backed off the mouse. I want mechanical, backlit, and well rated. I look at the Razer Ultimate and Logitech G710+ options, but I like this one the most and it seems like a nice keyboard, overall. The price seems reasonable.

Monitor: Asus VS248H-P (Around $185)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236153

I considered many different 24 inch monitors, especially from Asus, and couldn't decide. This one seems like the nicest of all the cheap Asus ones, but maybe I am wrong? I considered 27 inches, but I think I will end up too close to it and I want to be able to see the whole screen. I couldn't warrant spending an extra $80 or something, for a better one. If anyone has a better suggestion in the price range, I would love to hear.

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Thank you for taking the time to read all of that. I would love for some feedback, if possible. Thank you either way, though. I am not 100% set on anything, mainly due to a lack of knowledge. All suggestions welcomed. I have been so depressed for years, that I have not been following technology at all. I just have been playing catchup this past month. I have a long ways to go. This is all very new to me.

Some final notes... This will be mostly gaming, will be overclocked within reason, and I would like the price to stay below $2000 if possible. The price today doesn't matter so much, so if something feels a little high, I might be able to get it down with price matching, coupons, sales, etc... later on.

Thanks again.
Edited by AllRoCol - 11/1/12 at 10:37pm
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Everything looks good to me, the only thing I would suggest is that you may consider changing the power supply to a modular one, it would give you a cleaner look. thumb.gif
     
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One would think you've been on OCN a long time since these are excellent choices!
 
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Solid, nice to see someone not skimp on their GPU for once.
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Originally Posted by Lshuman View Post

Everything looks good to me, the only thing I would suggest is that you may consider changing the power supply to a modular one, it would give you a cleaner look. thumb.gif

I thought about it when I was first going through. I think I can live with it as is because I will likely, eventually, end up using just about every cable, so modular wouldn't necessarily benefit me in the long run. I will get some cable ties and try to keep them under control. The added resistance and problems associated with modular was enough to stop me from paying more, but not enough to stop me from thinking about similar power supplies. With that said, if you have any suggestions for a better one with a similar price, I would love to hear them. I certainly don't disagree with less cables, at least out of the gate.
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One would think you've been on OCN a long time since these are excellent choices!

Thank you. That makes me feel a lot better. I had no idea what any of this stuff was when I first started. I knew parts, I just hadn't looked any up in 9 years or so. I had to relearn what I could. I found so much useful information all over the web, including these great forums, which was why I decided to request some help here. Everyone seems really friendly and people actually continue to reply to threads. Most other places, someone would post something like this and get 1 reply, then everyone else would ignore it.
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Solid, nice to see someone not skimp on their GPU for once.

I looked all over the internet for the answer to the question of what to buy for a video card and it seemed like the general consensus was that one powerful card is better than two not-so-powerful cards. I really didn't want to budget that much to one component, but I can't seem to come up with a reason not to. That card just seems like such a great choice. My only worry is if it is worth the money compared to say other 7970s or even the higher end Nvidia ones. I would say though, I felt better after reading about the better performance from the new drivers, plus it is cool that you get those three free games with it (As an added bonus). Might be worth AMD over Nvidia. I still am not sure on the exact card, but I think I would have to somehow talk myself out of the ROG one.
Edited by AllRoCol - 10/31/12 at 10:43am
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