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Hi Guys I am putting together a gaming mITX build with the following components in a Fractal Designs Node 304 Case. Is this system suitable to run a 27" or even a 30" at 2560x1440 or 2560x1600 respectively at relatively decent settings? Or should I be looking at a GTX 680? Also after are criticism/comments of the comments I have chosen.

Case: Fractal Designs Node 304
CPU Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler Corsair H80 92.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard
Memory Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive
Storage Plextor M5S Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk $174.99
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card $429.00
Power Supply Silverstone Strider Gold 450W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
post #2 of 15
For that resolution get the 680 and that power supply will not be enough, something like a 650W, especially if you overclock. Rest is cool!
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I chose the PSU for the smaller footprint and I am unsure what higher wattage alternatives exist around the same size. And yeah definitely will go with the 680.
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I chose the PSU for the smaller footprint and I am unsure what higher wattage alternatives exist around the same size. And yeah definitely will go with the 680.

A 450w PSU should be enough for a 3570k and a GTX 680, but I would shoot for a 550w or 650w just to have a little headroom for overclocking. As for the size, the case you have listed above supports ATX PSU's so any PSU that isn't really long should work perfectly.
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post #5 of 15
A 450W PSU is more than enough for any single GPU build.
Period.

680's are very modest in terms of power consumption, as is Ivy Bridge.



Granted, you do have the space in the 304 for a better PSU.
You may want to consider that as an option, although the SFX PSU is smart.

Can we talk about storage options for a moment?
What do you need 2TB of 5400rpm storage for?

I'm trying to decide whether or not this build is feasible in an SG05/06
(which would be a lot smaller, but restricted to the use of 2.5mm form factor drives)
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Just general storage really as we have a file server. I take it from your question you think it is not necessary?
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This is probably going through Stealthy's mind:
Quote:
Drop the case to an SG05.
Drop the HDD. (You can still fit a 3.5" drive with a 2.5" drive in an SG05 if you try)
Drop the Asus board to an Asrock board.
Change the H80 to an H60 (the one I am least sure about.)
Don't need the separate PSU anymore.
Use the saved money to up to a GTX 680 and/or 3770k.

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A 450w PSU should be enough for a 3570k and a GTX 680, but I would shoot for a 550w or 650w just to have a little headroom for overclocking.

Everytime someone says this I feel compelled to post this review again. Overclocked CPU @ 4.8GHz, overclocked GPUs, max draw from the wall is under 400W smile.gif http://hardocp.com/article/2012/08/29/gigabyte_gtx_680_super_overclocked_edition_review/10
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What's my score? tongue.gif

6 out of 6. Is he so predictable? biggrin.gif
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post #9 of 15
5.5 out of 6... don't bother with the 3770K unless you really need it. Upgrading to a 680 would be better.

Case

+1 definite recommendation for the SG05... check out my sig!

PSU

The included 450W will 100% be fine to run an Ivy Bridge + a powerful graphics card.

SSD

My preference (and recommendation from personal use) would be a Samsung 830 but have heard good things about the Plextor too

HDD

I'd got for a 2.5" HDD if you can... there's not much space for a 3.5" drive with a H80 cooler in there.

Cooling

H80 cooler fine (I've got custom CPU+GPU loop), I'd put a Gentle Typhoon AP-14 on that though.

Graphics

Make sure you get a card whose fan exhausts out of the case, rather than blowing it around. Also get a 240mm card length (I think most GTX 670s are).

Motherboard

I have an Asrock Z77E-ITX and am very happy. I've had lost of Asus boards before and been happy with them.

Hope this helps!

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Originally Posted by rasziel View Post

Just general storage really as we have a file server. I take it from your question you think it is not necessary?
I don't think a slow 5.4k rpm 2TB media storage drive is really useful unless you are going to use up 80% of it within the next 3 years.
2 TeraBytes is a lot of data.

Granted, if you have the money, why not?
I would swap to a 7.2k rpm drive before anything else, solely for speed reasons, even if it means dropping down to 1.5TB, 1TB, or even 750GB.
You may also want to look into Seagate's Momentus XT Hybrid Drive line-up if you'll be accessing your storage drive a lot


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Originally Posted by armourcore9brker View Post

This is probably going through Stealthy's mind:
{snip}
What's my score? tongue.gif

LOL.
dude, you know me a little too well.

Drop the case to an SG05.
- Much Smaller + Much More Affordable

Drop the HDD. (You can still fit a 3.5" drive with a 2.5" drive in an SG05 if you try)
- Discussed. If 3.5" HDD is still required, there are 3 options for mounting in SG05.

Drop the Asus board to an Asrock board.
- I actually hadn't thought of this but it's a solid suggestion. 9 times out of 10, the AsRock is not only better value for the money but just all around better.

Change the H80 to an H60 (the one I am least sure about.)
- This, I suppose, I would just let the OP decide on. If you want push/pull in an SG05, the H80 will fit, but the 2nd fan will likely press up against the RAM like it has for others. For a single fan, an H80 or a ThermalTake Water 2.0 PRO( thicker radiator) would be the better choice. An H60 or equivalent will likely give you more space to work with though.

Don't need the separate PSU anymore. Use the saved money to up to a GTX 680 and/or 3770k.
- Swapping from the [304/ST45SF-G] to the [SG05/ST45SF] saves you around $100. I'd swap your GPU to this.


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6 out of 6. Is he so predictable? biggrin.gif
Oh come on guys!
Sometimes, I recommend the SG08! rolleyes.gif
Edited by stealthybox - 10/31/12 at 2:58am
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