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Funny thing is fandroids still claimed it to be smooth when it clearly wasn't lol.

I never personally claimed that. In fact, I will be the first to admit that my Droid X2 is a piece of crap. However, my Droid X2 is also running a Motorola skinned version of Gingerbread, while the Nexus 7 is running stock Jelly Bean and has far more processing power.

To put it bluntly, software optimization goes a long way, and the new wave of Nexus devices are about as optimized as they come.
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Well-constructed?? I don't think so.
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Wiens chimed in. "The screen is glued to the case. The battery is glued down. The logic board is really glued down. The headphone jack is glued in. The only good news is that the LCD is not fused to the front glass," he said.

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Well-constructed?? I don't think so.
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...That's pretty bad. From the way things are heading in Apple-land, pretty soon they'll be injecting epoxy into the iPad after assembly so it becomes this impenetrable slab of glue with the components sealed inside. Of course, that much epoxy would take months to dry so Apple will just sell it with the revolutionary new iFumes. Calling it now.
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...That's pretty bad. From the way things are heading in Apple-land, pretty soon they'll be injecting epoxy into the iPad after assembly so it becomes this impenetrable slab of glue with the components sealed inside. Of course, that much epoxy would take months to dry so Apple will just sell it with the revolutionary new iFumes. Calling it now.

The slogan: "You might die, but you died holding a revolutionary new product"
    
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The slogan: "You might die, but you died holding a revolutionary new product"
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Okay. I really don't get it. The iPad 2 is being compared to a 199$ Nexus 7. That s a 130$ difference! Better battery life cannot justify that. And iOS vs android its a matter of personal opinion ,it shouldn't be brought in when justifying the price.
And someone in this thread mentioned 'polished', 'reliability','perfect', 'attractive device'. I just dont..... sigh. rolleyes.gif

Why would anyone logically buy this device? Unless you love apple? How is it 'justifiably ' better?

I guess its down to the individual now. I know I will never buy an apple product unless its the best in that price bracket. Most of the apple hates here aren't blindly biased against their products. Theres always something cheaper and better and just as reliable.
In a way its like COD tongue.gif Everybody hates on it, yet it breaks sales records.

The part in bold is especially important to note. When you find that most people out there like a product, but a forum that represents only a very small minority doesn't, that's a good indicator that many members here let their hatred of stuff blind them to the truth. COD games are fun for most people, and the sales make that pretty obvious, yet you'll get plenty of haters here that think the game is terrible. What I think is mostly going on when it comes to the Apple vs. Android debate is that this is a hardware enthusiast forum, and Android more often than not has the devices with the higher specs (bigger screen, higher clocked processor, more RAM), so you end up with a bunch of fanboys trolling Apple threads saying how terrible iPhones are because of this spec, or that spec, or it's not different enough than the last. The reality, nobody cares, the average consumers does not care about the specs, they care about the experience, the usefulness of their device, how easy it is to use, etc. You hear the same crap in console vs. PC threads, the PC elitists care only that consoles have slower hardware, and thus think that consoles must be worthless and wonder how anybody can like them. The reality, again, nobody cares. The average gamer does not care about what level of MSAA a game is using, or the difference between 720p and 1080p or higher, or often even the difference between 30 and 60 fps. These things don't make the consumer ignorant, idiotic, or whatever most of OCN would like to think they are, it just means they have different priorities.
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...That's pretty bad. From the way things are heading in Apple-land, pretty soon they'll be injecting epoxy into the iPad after assembly so it becomes this impenetrable slab of glue with the components sealed inside. Of course, that much epoxy would take months to dry so Apple will just sell it with the revolutionary new iFumes. Calling it now.
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The slogan: "You might die, but you died holding a revolutionary new product"

Even better one biggrin.gif

iFumes, taking innovation to dizzying new heights.
    
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The part in bold is especially important to note. When you find that most people out there like a product, but a forum that represents only a very small minority doesn't, that's a good indicator that many members here let their hatred of stuff blind them to the truth. COD games are fun for most people, and the sales make that pretty obvious, yet you'll get plenty of haters here that think the game is terrible. What I think is mostly going on when it comes to the Apple vs. Android debate is that this is a hardware enthusiast forum, and Android more often than not has the devices with the higher specs (bigger screen, higher clocked processor, more RAM), so you end up with a bunch of fanboys trolling Apple threads saying how terrible iPhones are because of this spec, or that spec, or it's not different enough than the last. The reality,nobody cares, the average consumers does not care about the specs, they care about the experience, the usefulness of their device, how easy it is to use, etc. You hear the same crap in console vs. PC threads, the PC elitists care only that consoles have slower hardware, and thus think that consoles must be worthless and wonder how anybody can like them. The reality, again, nobody cares. The average gamer does not care about what level of MSAA a game is using, or the difference between 720p and 1080p or higher, or often even the difference between 30 and 60 fps. These things don't make the consumer ignorant, idiotic, or whatever most of OCN would like to think they are, it just means they have different priorities.

You do have a point. But.....this is where the price comes in. I'm talking about an average consumer now. And I'm assuming he isn't a spendthrift, and he doesn't buy apple products 'because its apple! 'The prices aren't competitive at all. Also, the ipad mini does not do "experience, usefulness, ease of use" better than significantly cheaper tablets. (And we're not talking about Chinese knockoffs here)

So to the average consumer, who isn't an expert, how do they justify spending so much more on something that doesn't do anything better than something much cheaper. blinksmiley.gif

And on a side note, the PC-console thing makes sense to me only when the issue of developers porting games to PC comes up.tongue.gif
I guess COD was a wrong analogy, How bout beats by dre? thumb.gif
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The part in bold is especially important to note. When you find that most people out there like a product, but a forum that represents only a very small minority doesn't, that's a good indicator that many members here let their hatred of stuff blind them to the truth. COD games are fun for most people, and the sales make that pretty obvious, yet you'll get plenty of haters here that think the game is terrible. What I think is mostly going on when it comes to the Apple vs. Android debate is that this is a hardware enthusiast forum, and Android more often than not has the devices with the higher specs (bigger screen, higher clocked processor, more RAM), so you end up with a bunch of fanboys trolling Apple threads saying how terrible iPhones are because of this spec, or that spec, or it's not different enough than the last. The reality,nobody cares, the average consumers does not care about the specs, they care about the experience, the usefulness of their device, how easy it is to use, etc. You hear the same crap in console vs. PC threads, the PC elitists care only that consoles have slower hardware, and thus think that consoles must be worthless and wonder how anybody can like them. The reality, again, nobody cares. The average gamer does not care about what level of MSAA a game is using, or the difference between 720p and 1080p or higher, or often even the difference between 30 and 60 fps. These things don't make the consumer ignorant, idiotic, or whatever most of OCN would like to think they are, it just means they have different priorities.

You do have a point. But.....this is where the price comes in. I'm talking about an average consumer now. And I'm assuming he isn't a spendthrift, and he doesn't buy apple products 'because its apple! 'The prices aren't competitive at all. Also, the ipad mini does not do "experience, usefulness, ease of use" better than significantly cheaper tablets. (And we're not talking about Chinese knockoffs here)

So to the average consumer, who isn't an expert, how do they justify spending so much more on something that doesn't do anything better than something much cheaper. blinksmiley.gif

And on a side note, the PC-console thing makes sense to me only when the issue of developers porting games to PC comes up.tongue.gif
I guess COD was a wrong analogy, How bout beats by dre? thumb.gif

So far price hasn't been an issue for Apple, they're obviously having no problem selling their devices. It remains to be seen if the price of the iPad Mini will end up being an issue for consumers. Seeing as how Apple has 68% tablet marketshare right now and the cheapest iPad was $500, I'm guessing that having a $330 iPad is only going to help their sales.

As for the porting issue you mention, I have a detailed discussion about that in the link in my sig, or click here: http://www.overclock.net/video-games-general/1001145-console-ports-101-a.html
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And what exactly do you need 300k apps for?

I need 38 versions of "Atomic Fart" and 68 version of "Flash Light". biggrin.gif
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