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Those are some absolutely crazy conclusions you have arrived at there.

You are correct on one point though, there is some purely illogical and irrational behavior all up in this thread.
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Originally Posted by GrizzleBoy View Post

1.
"Got there first"? Really?
You mean like how Microsoft "got there first" for windowed guis?
Or how Apple "got there first" for gesture based phone operating systems?
Or how IBM "got there first"?
Or how iTunes "got there first?
Hell screw competition right? Whoever creates a successful product immediately owns all the rights to the very concept of it and nobody is allowed to do anything remotely similar, right?
We should all just watch the first TV station ever made, drive the same car made by the same car company ever made.......hell why don't we all just play games only from the first gaming dev company ever made? Who was the first publisher? They got there first! Why does Valve even exist anyway? Don't they know someone else got there first?
Come to think of it, why does the USA even exist? I'm pretty sure the Indians got there first?
Everything would just be a whole lot better if people would just accept that someone else got there first.....
Come on man.....
2.
So wait, STEAM proves to other gaming publishers/devs that the STEAM commerce/distribution model (aka a publisher running a store and locking loads of games to their client) is a viable business model, but for some reason its actually EA that set the precedent.....because they copied an existing business model?
How do you set the precedent for something somebody else already set the precedent for? Especially when your apparent precedent is simply a copy of a previeously set precedent set by somebody else?
STEAM is the catalyst for other publishers using the STEAM model, but somehow you're convinced that the source of that comes from other companies following the STEAM model....
So even as you outline what you don't like, you attempt to blame the consequence of the precedent instead of the cause......but because the cause is linked to what you hold dear......its somehow the consequences fault that there is a consequence.......
Thats a great idea! I'll use that in court one day.
I'm going to shoot a dog and when they attempt to arrest me, I'm going to blame the gun and the fact that a bullet came out of it. Sure I was the actual cause of the bullet hitting the dog, but who am I to use logic and such things? Its the consequences fault that there is a consequence! The dog inst dead because I shot it, its dead because it died. Makes sense!
Since when has cause been directly linked to consequence anyway LOL???
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I don't know what it is about people discussing Steam, but the amount of purely illogical and irrational behavior when it comes to discussing it goes way past anything I've ever seen.
Truly amazing.

No need to get worked up, obviously you like being the devil's advocate.

When did I say Origin couldn't or shouldn't be allowed to exist? That's because I didn't just that I dislike it. Do you want a client for each of the dozens of publishers out there, honestly? And right now Origin isn't even competition, they're offering only they're own games and a select few others. When the day comes that it offers everything that steam does and competitively I'll welcome it.

Don't put words in my mouth, you know exactly what I mean, it's started with Origin and now Uplay. If Steam only offered Valve games I'd be just as critical. And what's with OCN and stupid analogies?
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No need to get worked up, obviously you like being the devil's advocate.
When did I say Origin couldn't or shouldn't be allowed to exist? That's because I didn't just that I dislike it. Do you want a client for each of the dozens of publishers out there, honestly? And right now Origin isn't even competition, they're offering only they're own games and a select few others. When the day comes that it offers everything that steam does and competitively I'll welcome it.
Don't put words in my mouth, you know exactly what I mean, it's started with Origin and now Uplay. If Steam only offered Valve games I'd be just as critical. And what's with OCN and stupid analogies?

I do not think he is saying he wants a bunch of different digital distribution clients but people have to realize that valve and steam opened this can of worms, other companies cannot watch while valve makes a billion of steam in one yr and decide not to try tapping the market themselves. When I think about it if valve did not create steam in the first place, everything would be more drm free. Also I agree that having a bunch of clients is bad but whats worse if valve having a monopoly; no one company even valve should have that. More competition means better deals.
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That's what happens when you choke hold the gaming industry and only release a AAA title (bf3, mass effect 3) on your service.
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Originally Posted by LuminatX View Post

lol 30 million users, but only 4 million actually bought games.
that's a lot of users who got free games with their glitched promo code.
I don't think this is something they should be bragging about.rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by pewter77 View Post

Big numbers mean something to stock holders, so EA tells them these big numbers. Its all about short term profits and the perception of lots of potential sales etc.


Money talks, bullpoop walks. EA love their money.

I don't believe this glitched promo code was an accident.
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Originally Posted by sausageson View Post

Oh also many people in this thread like to point out how EA forces people to use origin to play their games, while conveniently leaving out that steam does the same.

Valve have a better relationship with the consumer, and their praise is somewhat justified. However, i am not a fan of DRM and online distribution.
Edited by Thingamajig - 10/31/12 at 4:04pm
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Originally Posted by sausageson View Post

I do not think he is saying he wants a bunch of different digital distribution clients but people have to realize that valve and steam opened this can of worms, other companies cannot watch while valve makes a billion of steam in one yr and decide not to try tapping the market themselves. When I think about it if valve did not create steam in the first place, everything would be more drm free. Also I agree that having a bunch of clients is bad but whats worse if valve having a monopoly; no one company even valve should have that. More competition means better deals.

I agree completely, I just don't think EA is the answer to more competition when they're only really offering their own games.
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No need to get worked up, obviously you like being the devil's advocate.
When did I say Origin couldn't or shouldn't be allowed to exist? That's because I didn't just that I dislike it. Do you want a client for each of the dozens of publishers out there, honestly? And right now Origin isn't even competition, they're offering only they're own games and a select few others. When the day comes that it offers everything that steam does and competitively I'll welcome it.
Don't put words in my mouth, you know exactly what I mean, it's started with Origin and now Uplay. If Steam only offered Valve games I'd be just as critical. And what's with OCN and stupid analogies?

1.
Origin sells more than EA games and the library is growing all the time. Considering they only started selling third party titles earlier this year, I'm not sure how or why you'd expect to find the same level of third party software......it hasn't existed as a universal store for even 12 months yet......use some rationality.

2.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the "start" usually happens at the beginning?

Other synonyms being "first", "leader", etc.

Valve created, pushed and popularised the business model. They, along with millions of gamers acceptance set the precedent that this is the way forward.

In the famous words of many gamers "All other types of DRM apart from Steams type are intrusive". Then there's "Steam drm is the only acceptable drm".

So guess what other publishers did? They made Steam type DRM.

Who is to blame for showing them that this was the way forward? Steam and anybody who supported it.

If you have a problem with publishers having their own clients, then you should have had a problem with Steam.

If you were afraid that it might catch on, maybe you should have been doing all this campaigning against Steam instead of campaigning against clients literally inspired by Steam.


If you have a problem child in the classroom, you don't ignore him and scold the other children for behaving like him, you deal with him directly.

Only problem is, the problem child has been paying off the teacher and giving them good deals on products so nobody felt strong enough to say a word. Who needs the strength to stick to morals when you can buy cheap stuff anyway?

This has resulted in more problem children spawning in the classroom......but these ones aren't paying off the teacher.....so now the teacher feels strong enough to lash out. But only at the problem children inspired by the original problem child who is still paying them to relinquish themselves of their morals.

Meanwhile, the problem child remains in the class, inspiring other children to be like him.


As long as you and others refuse to criticise Steam for setting the trend you are seeing now, the trend will continue to grow.

You'll continue to attack the consequence of that trend (aka more Steam like clients popping up), while never actually attacking the cause (aka peoples willingness to shelve their inherent negative feelings towards having their games locked up as long they got to buy those games that get locked up for cheap) and nothing will change.


The evidence of what I am saying is all there.

If the gaming industry stood up and said "look, what the hell is this publisher Valve doing locking its games in third party clients", then anybody else doing the same would have to be treated similarly.

Instead, we did indeed to the "look, what the hell is this publisher Valve doing locking its games in third party clients" thing, but then sold out and had our morals bought by sales, social functionalities, a pretty UI etc.

So now when another company copies, that inherent "what the hell is this other publisher doing locking its games in third party clients" comes out for all to see. That negative feeling towards that business model never died, it was simply buried after people sold their morals for cheap games and what not.

So who is to blame?

Us smile.gif

Welcome to the world we created!
Edited by GrizzleBoy - 10/31/12 at 4:23pm
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So how many of those are just from BF3 and how many of those are from the leaked free $20 games?

Yeah......
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I don't really have a problem with locking my games to Steam. In fact when a new Humble Bundle comes out, I always choose to install it via Steam. I find it quite convenient having all my games in one location. It wasn't always this way, but its how I feel now.
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I never liked Steas nor Valve's games. EA is number one on my s.... list but It is nice to see some competition in a digital distribution market. I would love to see Amazon enter the market. The other two companies would be finished.rolleyes.gif
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