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Originally Posted by overclockmylife View Post

Someone suggested building two separate computers. One for the vm machines and another for gaming.
As for what I know about these components. I don't really know how they work exactly, but I think growing up with a computer, just like every other kid from the 90s, has helped me understand the basic role of each part.
If you want to know exactly what Im thinking when I think of these things:
cpu=the thing that does everything its the processor of everything on my hard drive
hard drive= storage of files/ os etc
ram=i think of it as the processor--of the processor/ hard drive
motherboard=i think of this as the operating system of everything inside the case
^i think thats the basic understanding of a computer
graphics card is the magical card that gives me good graphics
sound card
the power supply gives me power
the cooling system keeps my junk from overheating
I have no clue what the difference between a zZX90k4 is from a triple Q but what the cpu, motherboard, ram, and hard drive do I get that.

I am not stating you don't know the difference betwen a CPU and GPU, but if you are in your 20s, there is absolutely no way you should be spending 4500 dollars on a PC. Let me be clear, I am not trying to be the police of your money, but I was once in your shoes thinking I needed the absolute best of absolutely everything, tossed a bunch of money into PC stuff, and in the end, realized something for half the price would have sufficed just fine. I would highly encourage you to think more about what you would PROBABLY do with this, not what you MAY SOMEDAY do with it. My suggestion:

Intel 3770K - 319
Asus P8Z77-V LE - 159.99
Crucial M4 256GB - 199.99
Corsair 16GB 1600mhz memory - 78.99
Samsung EcoGreen 2TB F4 - 129.99
AMD 7970 - 400-450
Coolermaster Hyper 212+ CPU cooler - 29.99
Seasonic x850 PSU - 169.99
Windows 7 - 100
Case of your choice - TBD
DVD Drive - cheap

There is a solid machine that I put together quickly. Deal hunting or switching components slightly could save a bit more, all for 1500 + cost of a case. I think you should research each component more in depth to decide exactly what it is you need to do. I hate when people come in and say "my budget is X, build me a PC" because they need to understand what it is that they are buying, because people here will spend every dollar of that for you, whether you need that much PC or not, because it isn't their money.
post #22 of 57
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I am not stating you don't know the difference betwen a CPU and GPU, but if you are in your 20s, there is absolutely no way you should be spending 4500 dollars on a PC. Let me be clear, I am not trying to be the police of your money, but I was once in your shoes thinking I needed the absolute best of absolutely everything, tossed a bunch of money into PC stuff, and in the end, realized something for half the price would have sufficed just fine. I would highly encourage you to think more about what you would PROBABLY do with this, not what you MAY SOMEDAY do with it.

There is a solid machine that I put together quickly. Deal hunting or switching components slightly could save a bit more, all for 1500 + cost of a case. I think you should research each component more in depth to decide exactly what it is you need to do. I hate when people come in and say "my budget is X, build me a PC" because they need to understand what it is that they are buying, because people here will spend every dollar of that for you, whether you need that much PC or not, because it isn't their money.

+1 rep for this.
Not only are you helping him you are also helping my out with this kind of decision. I'm a junior in high school so i'm obviously not going to spend $4,500 on a computer and not even be in college. But I do have that burning sensation in my pocket because I have been working hard for about 6 years at our ranch for minimum wage to be able to get something great. I have been researching for about 4 months on all the components I would need but it's so hard for me to dedicate myself to buy the parts because the technology is becoming better and better everyday and my budget gets bigger every month. I just can't get my self ready to be like, okay i'm going to get a 3770k, 7970, ect.. because i know that Nvidia and amd are always leap frogging back and forth. I don't know how good next generation of cards and cpus are going to be. So i'm always like if i can just wait longer I can afford something so much better. Even though i know a set up i could build now would last me a long time gaming wise (if i don't screw something up overclocking). But what you said about just because I have all this money I can spend doesn't mean i should did really hit me hard and made me contemplate this whole thing more.
post #23 of 57
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Originally Posted by overclockmylife View Post

Someone suggested building two separate computers. One for the vm machines and another for gaming.
As for what I know about these components. I don't really know how they work exactly, but I think growing up with a computer, just like every other kid from the 90s, has helped me understand the basic role of each part.
If you want to know exactly what Im thinking when I think of these things:
cpu=the thing that does everything its the processor of everything on my hard drive
hard drive= storage of files/ os etc
ram=i think of it as the processor--of the processor/ hard drive
motherboard=i think of this as the operating system of everything inside the case
^i think thats the basic understanding of a computer
graphics card is the magical card that gives me good graphics
sound card
the power supply gives me power
the cooling system keeps my junk from overheating
I have no clue what the difference between a zZX90k4 is from a triple Q but what the cpu, motherboard, ram, and hard drive do I get that.

Basically there are 8 parts of PC, the proccessor [1](cpu) & videocard [2](gpu), are the performance component were you get most of the rig, processors are either intel/amd, depends on sockets, & videocard, are either Nvidia/AMD(ATI). The power supply [3](psu), juice up & power the entire rig depends on the cpu & gpu, a typical rig is 400W~500W & goes up 600W~up for high-end rigs, a true rate or 80+ certified is a must. The motherboard [4](pcb), where you plug in all the components & where you decide to get most of the feature like true SLI/Xfire, connectivity feature like msata ssd, number of sata 3/2, number USB 3/2 port/header, number PCI/e slots, built in sound, number of memory slots, & chipset features like Overclocking, ssd caching, integrated graphics processing (igp) etc choosing mobo depends on what cpu & socket either AMD/Intel. The memory [5](ram), works as cpu accessable data storage, current on the market DDR3 from 1066~2400 speed depends what's purpose, intel SB/IB cpu's are at 1600 speed, while AMD bulldozer, APU, trinity are 1600~1866 speed as sweetspot check motherboard limits, the memory capacity are 2~3GB(x86 OS)~4GB(x64 OS) office, gaming 4~8GB (x64 OS), rendering 8~32GB (x64 OS) & Dual/Quad channel. The hard disk [6](hdd) for mechanical storage filing & OS/apps, 250gb~500gb for office & 1TB for workstation, current solid state drive (ssd) are small capacity storage quite reliable for system drive OS/apps for faster OS boot & apps loading, ssd break the barrier of mechanical hard disk read/write limitation sporting Sata 3 transfer rate as high as 500MB/s but are quite pricy so 120/128 GB are good buys. The chasis [7](atx), house all the components depends on motherboard size, other factor to decide are airflow mesh, cable routing management, bottom psu (preferred), tray cut outs, number peripherals it can hold like hdd, pci/e slots, extra feature like hot-swappable hdd cage, water-cooling for 240~360 rads options, workable spacious interior, aesthetics like painted interior, windowed side panel, etc. And lastly the optical disk drive [8] (odd), for disc installation/burning & other disc purposes which is becoming obsolete same as the soundcard. Extra component like heatsink as stock for cpu, but overclocking feature require a decent aftermarket cooling.

Best is really check each & every component for compatibility by research or google and visualize theme color, before buying nothing really frustrate someone spending this much and it becomes a paperweight.
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Heck yea!
You could probably build two of those beasts with that much money thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by yanks8981 View Post

I am not stating you don't know the difference betwen a CPU and GPU, but if you are in your 20s, there is absolutely no way you should be spending 4500 dollars on a PC. Let me be clear, I am not trying to be the police of your money, but I was once in your shoes thinking I needed the absolute best of absolutely everything, tossed a bunch of money into PC stuff, and in the end, realized something for half the price would have sufficed just fine. I would highly encourage you to think more about what you would PROBABLY do with this, not what you MAY SOMEDAY do with it. My suggestion:
Intel 3770K - 319
Asus P8Z77-V LE - 159.99
Crucial M4 256GB - 199.99
Corsair 16GB 1600mhz memory - 78.99
Samsung EcoGreen 2TB F4 - 129.99
AMD 7970 - 400-450
Coolermaster Hyper 212+ CPU cooler - 29.99
Seasonic x850 PSU - 169.99
Windows 7 - 100
Case of your choice - TBD
DVD Drive - cheap
There is a solid machine that I put together quickly. Deal hunting or switching components slightly could save a bit more, all for 1500 + cost of a case. I think you should research each component more in depth to decide exactly what it is you need to do. I hate when people come in and say "my budget is X, build me a PC" because they need to understand what it is that they are buying, because people here will spend every dollar of that for you, whether you need that much PC or not, because it isn't their money.

Okay so than what does everyone think about this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/m3Ck

Anything you want to switch out or in for price/ performance?
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Okay so than what does everyone think about this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/m3Ck
Anything you want to switch out or in for price/ performance?

Make sure the H100 will fit inside the case nicely. I didn't check the dimensions but I think that's something you might want to check. I don't have any experience with PC Power & Cooling PSUs, so I can't help you there. Other than that, it's pretty good IMO, but I'm no professional.
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Okay so than what does everyone think about this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/m3Ck
Anything you want to switch out or in for price/ performance?

You said you are doing CPU intense things. I cant answer this for you, so you would need to decide how CPU intense. What games do you plan to play? Crossfire 7970s is a beast, and if you say you are going to be playing Modern Warfare 3 on a 1600x900 monitor, you are wasting a bunch of money. I can't speak for skyrim, but look at benchmarks. If you need dual 7970s, great, but if you dont, its a waste. I would probably drop down to 1 7970, probably leave the PSU as is so you can crossfire later if needed, up the CPU to a 3770K (the 3770K is the same as the 3570K, but its hyperthreaded, meaning each core theoretically does twice the work, simulating 8 cores), drop the memory from 2133 to 1600 as you likely wont notice the difference, and maybe up the 1TB to 2TB if you plan to store a lot of video files. You can get a cooler to do a decent job at a moderate OC like the Hyper 212 for about 70% less, but thats up to you.
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heres what i suggest op, build a $1500ish computer and then put a little extra in it to make it look nice.

Here is my build for you, and i think this build would be the best for your needs.


SSD: Samsung 830 SSD: 70
Graphics Card: 1x 7970: 340
HARD DRIVE: 2tb hard drive: 85
RAM: 4x4 ram, gskill or samsung or corsair vengeance: 80
Case: 650D or your preference: 100
CPU: 3570k: 220
CPU Cooler: H100: 95
Motherboard: Asus maximus V formula or Asus P8z77 v pro : 175-250
Corsair AX 850w psu: 150

extras:
accesorries e.g. sleeved cables

1325 after taxes and shipping

now get your self a nice korean monitor or a nice 120hz monitor + nice speakers and enjoy your self
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Bam! all for under $3000 with some upgrade paths and that's because i was splurging alot! But anyway this thing should build your own as you can see its a hell of a lot cheaper and its fun as hell and addictive. Any this thing should take anything you through at it. SO HAVE FUN! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! thumb.gif

exactly that. BOOM! if i had the money i would go with that
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I think you should learn a bit about computers before spening $4,500 on one. Learn how to build it yourself, it will save you a lot of money too, it's actually not that hard and there's plenty, PLENTY of tutorials on YouTube.

^ This... $4500 is alot of money, hope you know what you are going to do.

Because computers evolve very quickly so spending money on something you don't need would be a bad waste...
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Okay so than what does everyone think about this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/m3Ck
Anything you want to switch out or in for price/ performance?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/m89W

I have swapped the HDD for the WD10EZEX, I know its a Caviar Blue but its the newer drive from WD with single 1TB-platter, plus its far cheaper (more info here).

A 750W PSU will be enough for 7970 Crossfire.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-radeon-hd-7970-review,8.html
So I added the Rosewill Capstone 750W-M which is modular and Gold certified with Super Flower Golden Green internals, for the same price.
Edited by adridu59 - 11/1/12 at 6:41am
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