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post #11 of 41
10/31/12 at 5:58am
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So much for it's the software's fault because it doesn't understand FX chips architecture.. rolleyes.gif
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instruction_set

You're way out in left field, bud.
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post #12 of 41
10/31/12 at 6:10am
What an annoying article, either do the job properly (Include Piledriver as well) or just don't bother at all.
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post #13 of 41
10/31/12 at 6:22am
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instruction_set
You're way out in left field, bud.

No you're way out, since Bulldozer and the whole FX line released people have been blaming Window 7 for not understanding the module design and not allocating threads effectively.

AMD and fan boys said this would be fixed with Windows 8...... Does it look like it's been fixed to you?

No because the software was never the problem in the first place, it was just what got blamed rolleyes.gif
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post #14 of 41
10/31/12 at 6:25am
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My question is why did they test with an old 8150? The test should have been done using an 8350. Or perhaps both if they really wanted to test a bulldozer. But the 8350 should certainly not have been ignored.
The results they achieved are interesting, but not entirely relevant considering they are not testing using the current architecture. There's a good chance that piledriver with its optimizations would respond differently to the same tests.
Because when the FX-8150 came out, AMD pointed finger at Windows for not utilizing their obscure architecture efficiently enough. Statements where said about hotfixes improving performance, and that Windows 8 would run the Bulldozer better. The FX-8150 isn't FX-8350, and the FX-8350 wasn't the processor these statements were made for.

Exactly!

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What an annoying article, either do the job properly (Include Piledriver as well) or just don't bother at all.

Refer to the above post. Of course they could include Piledriver, but the main purpose of this review is to assess if what AMD and Microsoft claimed a year ago is true or not.

In any case, it is a valid suggestion to include Piledriver, but its absence doesn't make the article annoying. If you read AMD's own words about it, which I quoted in the OP, I'd say there isn't much difference between Windows 7 and Windows 8 with Piledriver either:
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AMD told us not to expect much from Windows 8 when it introduced FX-8350.

Edited by tpi2007 - 10/31/12 at 6:30am
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10/31/12 at 6:35am
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In any case, it is a valid suggestion to include Piledriver, but its absence doesn't make the article annoying. If you read AMD's own words about it, which I quoted in the OP, I'd say there isn't much difference between Windows 7 and Windows 8 with Piledriver either:
I'm sure it doesn't make much difference but I've been looking for articles comparing Piledriver in Windows 7 to 8 since it launched and now when a comparison article finally emerges it doesn't include the new CPU's which I find very annoying.
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10/31/12 at 6:43am
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In any case, it is a valid suggestion to include Piledriver, but its absence doesn't make the article annoying. If you read AMD's own words about it, which I quoted in the OP, I'd say there isn't much difference between Windows 7 and Windows 8 with Piledriver either:
I'm sure it doesn't make much difference but I've been looking for articles comparing Piledriver in Windows 7 to 8 since it launched and now when a comparison article finally emerges it doesn't include the new CPU's which I find very annoying.

I have that curiosity too, in fact I asked in the [OFFICIAL] FX-8320/FX-8350 Vishera Owners Club four days ago if someone could do the test. A guy told me he would test his CPU with Windows 7 and Windows 7 with the hotfixes, he didn't have Windows 8 though. I have a little over 700 new posts to read to see if he already did the tests. You might want to check after post 1290. thumb.gif Maybe someone tested with Windows 8 already too.
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post #17 of 41
10/31/12 at 7:26am
What happened? All AMD users were sure Bulldozer's problem was with Windows 7.... funny how that works.
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10/31/12 at 7:51am
Decide for your self on win 8 vs Win 7: http://www.planet3dnow.de/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=408737&garpg=24#content_start
























There are more win8 benchmarks you can find on that site.
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Decide for your self on win 8 vs Win 7:
There are more win8 benchmarks you can find on that site.

I see the intel chips getting just as much of a boost..
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10/31/12 at 8:45am
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Decide for your self on win 8 vs Win 7: http://www.planet3dnow.de/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=408737&garpg=24#content_start
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)






















There are more win8 benchmarks you can find on that site.

This is a good comparison of Windows 7 and Windows 8, but it just shows how much quicker certain things are in Windows 8 is vs Windows 7. It says nothing to how the new scheduler affects the FX series specifically because in pretty much every chart the old PII chip shows at least some improvement while the Intel i7 shows the biggest percent increase from Windows 7 to Windows 8 in half those tests. Basically the status quo remains the same for BD.
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