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iwant to change my cpu and i don t know wich one should i get. i don't have the buget for the i7 and i think it's pretty much between these 2. What i want most is gaming performance

Also can you recommand a good mobo for each of them? the mobo buget is about 100-120 euros and i want to go sli in the near futire so it musthave at least dual way sli
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3570. no going back to amd. (from an amd fanboy).
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3570 hands down ( also from a AMD user ) . Unless your encoding or using any programs like adobe after effects. But for other use 3570 wins most of the time.

THe only success AMD could really have in the CPU market is the steamroller, Pildriver was for the people that already have a 990-fxa board due to the failure of the bulldozer and brought the AM3+ because of the hype.
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can you tell me some reasons? to me the fx seems superior to the i5, i mean 8cores, 4ghz out of thee box, i am no expert but i need somereasons to make a decision.
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can you tell me some reasons? to me the fx seems superior to the i5, i mean 8cores, 4ghz out of thee box, i am no expert but i need somereasons to make a decision.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-fx-8350_6.html#sect0
Just because the FX has twice the amount of cores does not mean applications will use those cores or that those cores are comparable to the cores of another microarchitecture.
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i5 3570K, actually I'm changing into it from a 1055T. The single-thread performance of FX-8350 is quite abysmal, and even though parallerization or multi-tasking is the future, for some tasks you just need one core to pack a decent punch. i5-3570K would be better for games and applications that don't benefit much from hyper-threading or lots of cores. Also because it lacks the said feature, it runs cooler and thus is easier to overclock higher than i7.

Where I come from, the FX-8350 is 199,90€, and i5 3570K is 234,90€. For such a long term investment, 35€ more is hardly worth saving because you'd favor a "bang for the buck" brand, especially when the said brand doesn't deliver the said bang for hardly any less buck than the more expensive competitor.

Yours truly, the third ex-AMD fanperson of this thread.

EDIT: Make no mistake, more clock-speed and more cores doesn't make a processor automatically better, if the architecture is weird and doesn't make the CPU calculate any faster in comparison to better designed alternatives like the i5 and i7 series from Intel. You can't compare the clock speeds and core counts of different architectures directly. These are sometimes called the "per Hertz" and "per core" performance of a CPU/architecture, and Intel has them both better at the moment.

In favor of FX-8350 are several programs that scale well with core increase, such as rendering: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-8.html
Still, if I was you, I would be underwhelmed that at 4.0GHz and twice the amount of cores it can hardly surpass a 3.4GHz CPU with half the amount of cores.. something just isn't right there.
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well, i'm convinced..but is it futureproof or i should wait to raise more money to get the i7 3820, it's about 100 bucks more expansive than the i5 but is it worth it? ii must say that i don't have overclocking knowledge so i think i'm gonna say on stock speed.

and can you recommand a mobo for the i5?
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intel for sure if you get a 3820 you will need a socket 2011 wont work in a 1155 socket. For 1155 you could go with a i7-3770K or 2600k so you get 4cores with ht, ht helps in transcoding and encoding does not help much in most games yet.
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i don't care about the socket as i am changing the mobotoo.J
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Reasons why to get the 3570k over the 8350:

Faster clock for clock (quite literally the only thing that matters).
Great IGP performance (in case you're without a GPU).
Runs better out the box (less headache when tuning, or even stock).
28nm process. Uses less voltage.

You mention the 8350 is 4ghz out the box. Well, even at 3.2ghz the 3570k blows it out the water. Now imagine that at 4.5ghz which the 3570k can easily do with minimal/brainless tweaking.

Remember, it's not about how fast you look... it's about how fast you get there smile.gif
Edited by hollowtek - 10/31/12 at 5:10am
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