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post #11 of 32
Well, second best. Pioneer's Kuro is not a mainstream brand though. People don't go and spend six grand on a TV everyday. I doubt the Kuro's market share is even relevant to the industry. ( I didn't even know they made them anymore either?)
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I used to LOVE, and I mean LOOOOOVE Panasonic products.

I loathe them now. I will avoid that brand like the plague and spend more for a lesser known brand to avoid them. My last few products have been cordless phones. And if you use google or owned a Panasonic cordless in the last few years, you likely know what I'm talking about. Terrible, terrible quality, terrible products, terrible support, terrible everything. And yet, still a huge premium price tag. Pioneer exists as a "brand name" for the uneducated and those out of the loop that thinks big name = quality.

Pioneer is going down hard because of their business practices and that alone. You can't pump out Dollarama quality products, Slap Sony price tags on it, and expect to make a ton of cash without an issue.

Their products have irked me so much I'm actually cheering for their demise right now, maybe someone can buy out their IP and make some good products worth buying....
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I refuse to touch anything but Samsung and LG for HDTV displays.
 
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post #14 of 32
+1 kidwolf

Txp42g20 owner. It is the shiz. They are basically the new kuros, without the rediculous price tag that pioneer charged
    
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post #15 of 32
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Originally Posted by Partol View Post

I love Panasonic video cameras and microwave ovens. Don't care about anything else from Panasonic. Don't own a tv.

sony video cameras are by far better. sony owns the market in professional video from pro-sumer to broadcast to cine. while i have a strong bias towards Arri, arri doesnt make anything but cine gear.

shame panasonic is struggling though. honestly im pretty sure their TVs are made with the same parts that other companies use considering south korea is pretty much manufacturing most of the parts that are in everyone's TVs
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post #16 of 32
I forgot they even existed, let alone have a smartphone.
I bet it's even worse than LG smile.gif

Best hdtv? 10bn loss point the other direction... so yeah... you'e confused with samsung wink.gif
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post #17 of 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by losttsol View Post

It sucks, because Panasonic actually makes a better TV. Their high end plasmas are the best displays currently made.

This. Trying to get my hands on a p50st50 near black friday.
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I forgot they even existed, let alone have a smartphone.
I bet it's even worse than LG smile.gif
Best hdtv? 10bn loss point the other direction... so yeah... you'e confused with samsung wink.gif

http://reviews.cnet.com/televisions/
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post #18 of 32
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Originally Posted by Conspiracy View Post

sony video cameras are by far better. sony owns the market in professional video from pro-sumer to broadcast to cine.

From my experience, Sony has better quality control than Panasonic but Panasonic has better value.
My most recent video camera purchase was the Panasonic HDC-TM700.
Why? because the TM700 is one of the first (perhaps the very first) 1080p/60fps video cameras at $1000 or less.
At the time when I purchased it, if I recall correctly, all other manufacturers were only selling 1080i 60fps at the same price.
The TM700 is certainly not perfect but video quality is much much better than any 1080i Sony camera that I ever used.

I like Sony video cameras too, mainly because not one has ever broken on me. But I have more respect for Panasonic because they push the limits of technology at affordable prices.

If I recall correctly, Panasonic was one of the first companies to offer flash memory recording (instead of tapes or hard drives).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Panasonic_camcorders
"The HDC-SD1 was the first consumer high definition camcorder to record to solid-state media."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVCHD#Video_formats
"Until the advent of AVCHD Progressive mode, native progressive-scan video for 1080-line resolution had been available only in 24 frames/s variant. In 2010, Panasonic introduced a new lineup of consumer AVCHD camcorders with 1080-line 50p/60p progressive-scan mode (frame rate depending on region).[11] Panasonic advised that not all players that support AVCHD playback could play 1080-line 50p/60p video.[12] In 2011, this mode was officially included into the AVCHD specification as part of 2.0 addendum, and has been called AVCHD Progressive. This mode uses the same AVCHD folder structure and container files for storing video, with the maximum bitrate of 28 Mbit/s. In 2011, Sony introduced consumer and professional AVCHD models capable of AVCHD Progressive recording. In 2012 JVC announced the GY-HMQ10 model, which also can record AVCHD Progressive video."
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post #19 of 32
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Japanese tech firms just can't keep up with the powerhouse that is Samsung.

Pretty much.
 
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post #20 of 32
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Originally Posted by losttsol View Post

It sucks, because Panasonic actually makes a better TV. Their high end plasmas are the best displays currently made.

Agreed. All of their TVs are high quality, I hope panasonic weathers the storm.
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