"Originally Posted by anAppleADay
As someone pro MPAA (brother works for them), I'm very glad the dirt bag received that sort of treatment. He's one of the absolute biggest reasons Hollywood has struggled in the past 10 or so years, yet with his promotion of piracy, he was able to live the "good life" without an ounce of talent (not a lawyer, athlete, or actor/actress). His kids have his genes, thus I doubt I'll spend a minute thinking about them...he deserves life in prison IMO."
Alrighty, lets see here... so DotCom is the biggest reason Hollywood has struggled? What defines struggle here, because I see these multi-millionaire actors still living the life with NO worries at all. Could it be the lack of decent or original content over the years? "I can't come up with new ideas... lets just reboot something else and make a run for it..." No, THAT couldn't be the reason at all.... really...
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More propaganda...Like we really need more...
Bottom line, copyright infringement is illegal. Period.
Dotcom outside of the copyright laws, is guilty of multiple OTHER charges...We're not just discussing the MPAA here, he is legitimately guilty of racketeering...
Stealing is stealing unless you create a new definition that's accepted in the Oxford/Webster dictionaries.
I really don't understand disconnect here.
Megaupload has a tremendous amount of OTHER content outside of the MPAA's reign, some of it being equally as illegal...If it is legitimate, then those legitimate users that can prove they were using it legally and sue the crap out of Dotcom...He's with-holding the legitimate users by allowing illegal content on the site...
Yes, I'm such a horrible propaganda machine. I should probably get a job for the MPAA or RIAA and work for them shouldn't I? I can play the devil's advocate quite easily here if I was depraved enough to do so.
Same fallback from you... it's "illegal" so everything being done is justified. Problem being, the legality is such a gray area that it can't be fully determined until the rights of the individuals are violated to find or create evidence in support of their claims to back it up. The ends justify the means is basically what youo're saying. From other threads... it's all about the evil terrorists using these sites to run their operations. Yes. The terrorists use these P2P sites as central hubs of intelligence. You don't think their paranoia and the fact that most of the world sees the USA as the controller of the internet might keep the real terrorists OFFline a bit? If I plan to blow something up, I'm not going to post my plans on Mega"xxx" for safe keeping. I'll hand write them, keep them under lock and key, and transmit via word of mouth as needed. You know... how these cells really operate... digital transmissions aren't as prevalent for primary information due to the ease of tracking and paranoia of being tracked. Of course, you wouldn't understand that if you can't sort through the counter-intel being spread by everyone... the REAL propaganda.
I'd love to see the evidence against him for racketeering as well, since that is generally reserved for organized crime. The trick comes down to the broad language eomployed by the RICO act to give them the latitude to declare what they like as conspiracy to commit racketeering. So far as I can tell, Mr. Dotcom hasn't been convicted yet... so he isn't "legitimately guilty of racketeering" just yet.
The definition of 'stealing' is muddied in and of itself when exposed to the digital environment since the historical base concept of stealing, including the dictionary definition listed, revolves around physical objects. Ideas are mentioned as well, and the general term 'property' is used, but in that case... casual users can be said to be 'stealing' during everyday use of many products in ways the manufacturer didn't explicitly approve. Playing an iPod over a speaker for others to hear, using songs you paid for... now, he songs can be considered stolen since fair use has limits and depending who's listening, you could be sued.
The last part there, again where you refer to all the other horrible things being trafficked through P2P land… “if it is legitimate, then those legitimate users that can
prove they were using it legally”, so they’re all guilty until proven innocent due to association to a site? Good to see the ‘justice’ system at work there. How about just releasing it all back due to improper seizure based on illegal raids in the base investigation? All evidence after the fact should be dismissed if following procedure there if I interpret that all correctly. HE isn’t withholding these (supposedly) legitimate users data, the government is. Why doesn’t the government just sift through it all and anything meeting any criteria just send out an instant violation notice to the associated account holder? At $4000-5000 per song on music alone, they could possible clear our deficit that way… especially with the higher fines for all the other ‘infringing’ material.
If it’s just about potentially dangerous information, I could go to prison for the rest of my life for the data on an old hard drive of mine from my high school and college days. At first glance, all you see are blueprints, schemata, ideas, and potential use scenarios for advanced weaponry and nuclear materials. I’m practically a super villain here… once I go bald I’ll just rename myself Lex and wait for ol’ Superman to come put me to justice.
Looking at the data alone can’t determine fair use… you won’t know if they purchased it and ripped it, mixed it and kept the title since it was for personal use, shared the account to make it easier for friends/family or their organization….
So, I say again… really… who’s spreading propaganda here?
