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Temperature is fine, pc boots everytime but with some big delay and everything feels like when you play a game below 10fps with screen tearing. Thx for your patience and for your tip to post in the club thread.
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Hi everyone!

I recently jointed this site after building a new rig. Seems like an awesome community and this guide for installing the Evo 212 is a clear example of that!

Both the pictures and videos on this thread are super helpful (Khaled you rock). I recently picked up the 212 Evo after it was sold out everywhere (I don't live in the States so can't order from Newegg/Amazon). I do have a few things to clarify about the building process though:

1. the alcohol to be used on the CPU to remove the stock thermal paste - do we really need to use alcohol? I've heard of people removing it without any alcohol. Also, I've only been able to get my hands on some Isopropyl 70%, not 90%. Will that be an issue if I end up using it?

2. applying the thermal paste - I watched Linus's vid that Khaled posted (thanks dude!) and it seems Linus recommends the pea-sized method or line method (I'm going to assume he meant the pea method is sufficient for a 1150 cpu like mine with the line method being recommended for the 2011). A lot of comments and other vids seem to point at spreading out the paste before installing the HSF. Do you guys have any preference?

3. I'm a little concerned about my Vengence Pro ram being in the way of the fan. I noticed some pics in here where the fan actually makes contact with the top of the ram's heat spreader. Is such contact going to impact either the ram or fan's performance and longevity in any way?

Thanks in advance for any input!
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Hi everyone!

I recently jointed this site after building a new rig. Seems like an awesome community and this guide for installing the Evo 212 is a clear example of that!

Both the pictures and videos on this thread are super helpful (Khaled you rock).

Thanks, and welcome to OCN.
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1. the alcohol to be used on the CPU to remove the stock thermal paste - do we really need to use alcohol? I've heard of people removing it without any alcohol. Also, I've only been able to get my hands on some Isopropyl 70%, not 90%. Will that be an issue if I end up using it?

I actually rub my cpu with a clean cotton\synthetic cloth for about 20 seconds and it's as shiny as new. I don't use alcohol or any other cleaning materials. Some People use 90% isopropyl, it's your choice to decide.
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Originally Posted by maximsilentfoot View Post

2. applying the thermal paste - I watched Linus's vid that Khaled posted (thanks dude!) and it seems Linus recommends the pea-sized method or line method (I'm going to assume he meant the pea method is sufficient for a 1150 cpu like mine with the line method being recommended for the 2011). A lot of comments and other vids seem to point at spreading out the paste before installing the HSF. Do you guys have any preference?

What matters is applying the right amount and positioning it around the center as the cooler will squeeze it out. The thermal paste is put to even out the surface of the cooler, to fill those tiny scratches. for small CPUs, the cooked rice grain is an ideal amount, for larger ones, two thin parallel\crossing lines should do.
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3. I'm a little concerned about my Vengence Pro ram being in the way of the fan. I noticed some pics in here where the fan actually makes contact with the top of the ram's heat spreader. Is such contact going to impact either the ram or fan's performance and longevity in any way?

Due to the HUGE selection of MBs and RAM, determining all the scenarios will be really hard. So I'll talk about my personal experience.

First, I had a Z77X-UD3H Mobo with the old corsair vengeance RAM, the fan touched the RAM and pushed it by just a hair which is OK.
Now I have a B75 & Kingston HyperX Fury RAM, and it's low profile so it didn't even touch.

Here is a pic for my older setup, It's hard to determine if it pushes, but it does ... Just by a hair.



Best wishes.
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Thanks, and welcome to OCN.
I actually rub my cpu with a clean cotton\synthetic cloth for about 20 seconds and it's as shiny as new. I don't use alcohol or any other cleaning materials. Some People use 90% isopropyl, it's your choice to decide.
What matters is applying the right amount and positioning it around the center as the cooler will squeeze it out. The thermal paste is put to even out the surface of the cooler, to fill those tiny scratches. for small CPUs, the cooked rice grain is an ideal amount, for larger ones, two thin parallel\crossing lines should do.
Due to the HUGE selection of MBs and RAM, determining all the scenarios will be really hard. So I'll talk about my personal experience.

First, I had a Z77X-UD3H Mobo with the old corsair vengeance RAM, the fan touched the RAM and pushed it by just a hair which is OK.
Now I have a B75 & Kingston HyperX Fury RAM, and it's low profile so it didn't even touch.

Here is a pic for my older setup, It's hard to determine if it pushes, but it does ... Just by a hair.




Best wishes.

 

You can always adjust the fan bracket higher to clear the ram as the mount was designed to accommodate higher heat-sinks.

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You can always adjust the fan bracket higher to clear the ram as the mount was designed to accommodate higher heat-sinks.

Yes, I could also remove the rubber pads, which will give me the space I needed BUT the fan would slip, although only when the case is on it's back.

Or, even better, Motherboard manufacturers could standardize that design where there is no space between RAM slots, which is Sexier IMO.

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Originally Posted by CM Felinni View Post

You can always adjust the fan bracket higher to clear the ram as the mount was designed to accommodate higher heat-sinks.

Yes, I could also remove the rubber pads, which will give me the space I needed BUT the fan would slip, although only when the case is on it's back.

Or, even better, Motherboard manufacturers could standardize that design where there is no space between RAM slots, which is Sexier IMO.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

and put the CPU closer to the back panel I/O, move the VRMs to the top (see ITX models, even LGA2011 uses this layout).
and put the DIMMs closer towards the front edge nearly touching the 24pin header, i mean seriously why do they cram all those chokes/caps/VRMs on the edge when theres a ton of room near the CPU?

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Originally Posted by Khaled G View Post

Thanks, and welcome to OCN.
I actually rub my cpu with a clean cotton\synthetic cloth for about 20 seconds and it's as shiny as new. I don't use alcohol or any other cleaning materials. Some People use 90% isopropyl, it's your choice to decide.
What matters is applying the right amount and positioning it around the center as the cooler will squeeze it out. The thermal paste is put to even out the surface of the cooler, to fill those tiny scratches. for small CPUs, the cooked rice grain is an ideal amount, for larger ones, two thin parallel\crossing lines should do.
Due to the HUGE selection of MBs and RAM, determining all the scenarios will be really hard. So I'll talk about my personal experience.

First, I had a Z77X-UD3H Mobo with the old corsair vengeance RAM, the fan touched the RAM and pushed it by just a hair which is OK.
Now I have a B75 & Kingston HyperX Fury RAM, and it's low profile so it didn't even touch.

Here is a pic for my older setup, It's hard to determine if it pushes, but it does ... Just by a hair.



Best wishes.

I just installed the evo 212 without much issue. However when I turn the PC on everything powers on including fans for around 2 seconds... Then it switches itself off . Then it switches itself on again after a second or so of switching off. It repeats this over and over. Any ideas?
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I just installed the evo 212 without much issue. However when I turn the PC on everything powers on including fans for around 2 seconds... Then it switches itself off . Then it switches itself on again after a second or so of switching off. It repeats this over and over. Any ideas?

It could be:

- Short Circuit: Recheck every single connection.
- Forgot to connect something ? 24 Pin ATX/8 Pin EPS/ VGA Power.
- Power Supply Failing ? Highly unlikely but possible

I suggest troubleshooting by:

- Disconnecting everything (All power and data connectors, RAM , VGA (Disconnect&Remove) & HDDs) then plug in 24/8 Pin connectors and fire it up.
- If it gives no problems, switch off, add RAM and fire it up again.
- If no problem, Add VGA (and connect it's power).
- If no problem add HDDs.
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and put the CPU closer to the back panel I/O, move the VRMs to the top (see ITX models, even LGA2011 uses this layout).
and put the DIMMs closer towards the front edge nearly touching the 24pin header, i mean seriously why do they cram all those chokes/caps/VRMs on the edge when theres a ton of room near the CPU?


I totally agree with you.
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they could even fit an M.2 slot adjacent to the back I/O if they move those VRMs to the top.
the entire upper portion of the PCB could be dedicated to power regulators tbh, with the 8pin and 24pin closer to them than ever possible.

theres so much room for placing parts, they already have the idea on LGA2011 and some ITX boards out there, just shows how blind manufacturers can be.
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