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post #1 of 10
11/1/12 at 1:28am
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Hello im new to hosting a server i have a few questions and i also will show you a pic of my new server

1. optus says on there FAQ that servers of any kind are not allowed i have been hosting a server for some time now? does optus care or should i change m y actual port used? i have been using port 80 for almost a year now.
2. is 800kbps upstream good for a website with 25 members?

<< my custom built server xD

is it safe to host a website? please answer and help thanks biggrin.gif

and also will optus know if lets say i host a website on port 1997 for example?
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11/1/12 at 1:33am
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it would look allot better if you got a test benching stand not to be mean are anything
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11/1/12 at 1:37am
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its cool man its not mean or anything i only set it up there because my computer case looks awful biggrin.gif lol biggrin.gif
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11/1/12 at 1:39am
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its cool man its not mean or anything i only set it up there because my computer case looks awful biggrin.gif lol biggrin.gif

oh biggrin.gif well at-least its in a case and out of the way {:
ive seen allot of nice server builds but left on a N table are a box lol why i have no clue so i was just checking hehe
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post #5 of 10
11/1/12 at 2:26am
If you've been running it for a year without Optus notifying you of anything, I'd quite safely assume it's fine.

As already said, see if you can get a testing bench, it's looks, more professional that way biggrin.gif
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11/1/12 at 2:28am
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post #7 of 10
11/1/12 at 2:31am
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oh i noticed that lol i moved it basicly i use it as a network hub i have 2 routers biggrin.gif one i use as a hub the other for internet
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11/1/12 at 6:42am
I don't know about your specific ISP, but I will tell you about my ISP...Insight (now owned by TWC). Their terms state that no server is allowed, which is ridiculous. I have had numerous arguments with techs about how unreasonable that is, since a server can be anything from a file share that is only internal (your ISP isn't going to know what is behind your firewall). I pay for a 50 down, 5 up connection...and for them to think that I am not going to use it for accessing my files remotely, or something...is just crazy.

Anyway, Insight will randomly use a port scanner and scan certain IPs (of their customers). If they find open ports, they get pissy. I have had my connect shut down because "having port 3389 open (RDP) is not safe." Arguing does no good, so I just say "I will fix it' and I'm on my merry way. I currently have 16 various open ports (2 wordpress sites, a wiki, SABnzbd, SickBeard, Headphones, CouchPotato, and uTorrent accessible from a browser, I have an RD Gateway, and other stuff too). I haven't had trouble in over a year, but if it happens I just say I will fix it and go on my way.
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11/1/12 at 1:57pm
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Hello im new to hosting a server i have a few questions and i also will show you a pic of my new server
1. optus says on there FAQ that servers of any kind are not allowed i have been hosting a server for some time now? does optus care or should i change m y actual port used? i have been using port 80 for almost a year now.
2. is 800kbps upstream good for a website with 25 members?
<< my custom built server xD
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and also will optus know if lets say i host a website on port 1997 for example?

1. Breaking the TOS is a good way to get your Internet shut off. But it's very doubtful that it would happen. There is a reason ISPs offer Business Packages, and Hosting is one of them.

2. 800 kbps is okay. I'm going to go out on a whim and assume that it's 25 users in total and not all at once. If so, you're fine.

Your ISP can perform a port scan and find out what is open, then query that port to see what's running on it. Again this is doubtful. These rules are usually only enforces when people use excessive bandwidth.

When you say "safe" what are you referring to? What OS are you running? What Web Server? Your server is exposed to the Internet, in short it's never going to be safe.
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11/5/12 at 12:28pm
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These rules are usually only enforces when people use excessive bandwidth.

Exactly this. Notice that residential connections are asymmetric? Not only are they modelled around client-side request/response traffic, but if I remember correctly, ISPs' peering arrangements are billed differently for their residential customers' inbound traffic (download) than their outbound traffic (upload/outbound is more pricey), which is why they don't want people running servers.

If they were smart, they would use bandwidth monitors instead of port scanners. Denying someone remote access to their own computer is idiocy.
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