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Originally Posted by Blameless View Post

Chipset doesn't have anything to do with memory support.
If it uses the current LGA-2011 socket, DDR4 is almost certainly not going to happen on it. Even if DDR4 has the same pin out, the CPUs and board VRMs are all geared for DDR3.
As for AMD, you can't put an AM2/+ CPU in an AM3 socket, and only AM3 CPUs have both DDR2 and DDR3 memory controllers. Likewise, you can drop an AM3+ CPU into most AM3 boards, but unless the board has been designed with AM3+s changes to power delivery in mind, it won't work.

DDR4 isn't on the roadmap for anybody for a while.

(at least as far as we know)
    
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post #102 of 135
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Originally Posted by xPrestonn View Post

DDR4 isn't on the roadmap for anybody for a while.
(at least as far as we know)

I know. Which is one of the reason why I wouldn't expect DDR4 on anything before Haswell EP.

I was just pointing out the technical hurdles to DDR4 support on LGA-2011.
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post #103 of 135
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Originally Posted by Blameless View Post

Chipset doesn't have anything to do with memory support.
If it uses the current LGA-2011 socket, DDR4 is almost certainly not going to happen on it. Even if DDR4 has the same pin out, the CPUs and board VRMs are all geared for DDR3.
As for AMD, you can't put an AM2/+ CPU in an AM3 socket, and only AM3 CPUs have both DDR2 and DDR3 memory controllers. Likewise, you can drop an AM3+ CPU into most AM3 boards, but unless the board has been designed with AM3+s changes to power delivery in mind, it won't work.

Note, DDR4 will definitely have a different pinout for sure. DDR3 uses a fly-by topology while DDR4 will use a point-to-point topology.
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Actually the 2011 i7 chips are all dies that didn't pass test for 8 core 2011 Xeons, so it is the other way around.

that's why he said low end Xeon, they're not all 8 core parts, some are 6 core parts with much lower clocks than the 3930K.

Also, binning generally never opperates in such absolutes, its highly unlikely yields are bad enough to where all SB-E i7s are tested and failed 8 core parts, but rather Intel simply chose not to produce an 8 core SB-E part for the consumer market, a move likely made to help push IB-E (which, again, makes the rumor the OP is about hard to believe)
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post #105 of 135
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that would have lower yield.
any chip that has 1-2 bad cores can be a 3820 (essentially), but the reverse isn't true.
It doesn't make sense to just throw away chips with 4 functioning cores instead of releasing a cpu with that many
lol what crap u are talking? there isnt a 6 core die in SB-E. All SB-E with 6 cores are actually 8 cores with 2 cores disabled. 3820 is a diff die, a full 4 core die.
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post #106 of 135
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lol what crap u are talking? there isnt a 6 core die in SB-E. All SB-E with 6 cores are actually 8 cores with 2 cores disabled. 3820 is a diff die, a full 4 core die.

woops, my bad. forgot about those 2 extra cores from the xeon chips.
    
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With a 3980X coming out ... If 3980K is 8 cores I'm sure the Ivy rumor here in this thread is untrue
http://wccftech.com/arctic-cooling-leaks-complete-intel-haswell-lga1150-cpu-lineup-core-i73980x-confirmed-lga2011/
This is all speculation obviously. But would be strange to have 3960X, 3970X and 3980X. I don't know why they would need three chips that are not much differences.
 
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I don't know why they would need three chips that are not much differences.

Because all they have to do is change the name and they have a new product.
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What, do you mean like the 970, 980, and 990 i7's of the last generation ?

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What, do you mean like the 970, 980, and 990 i7's of the last generation ?
dunx

no, there was no 970X, the 970 was effectively the 3930K of its time

there was a 970 and 980, and then a 980X and then a 990X

at this point it really wouldn't make sense for intel to release an even higher binned 6 core part less than 6 months from when the 3970X came out

really, if we look at the release of extreme processor and the analogous transition from 1366 to 2011, there's the 965 and 975 that would be the 3960 and 3970, while an 8 core 3980 would be analogous to the 980X

basically, I think the rumor is either untrue and we'll get nothing, or we'll get an 8 core 3980X
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