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11/1/12 at 4:14pm
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I thought intel had already stated that they would have Fully unlocked IB-E chips with TDP over 130W?
Are they going back on that now?
Maybe there will be chips that have them enabled and chips that dont?
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Originally Posted by Stay Puft View Post

Enthusiast build? 4 way SLI/Xfire scale like crap and Z77 board with a PLX chip can easily handle 3 way.
Ivy bridge E is the SAME architecture as Ivy Bridge. How many times do we have to tell you that. According to this article you're not even going to get 8 core chips let alone 10 so someone remind me again why i would even consider 2011?

SBE Has more Lanes from the processor, and the PLX chips add latency to the PCIE bus.
Also, Scaling on the 7970s is almost 99% (at least i know it is for two cards, ive seen it myself, not sure about more though, youd have to ask karlitos or TSM)
Edited by Nemesis158 - 11/1/12 at 4:17pm
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11/1/12 at 4:17pm
What sort of TDP are we talking about for say an 8 core IBE with a 3.4ghz base and 3.8ghz turbo? 150W? 160W?
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11/1/12 at 4:23pm
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Enthusiast build? 4 way SLI/Xfire scale like crap and Z77 board with a PLX chip can easily handle 3 way.
Ivy bridge E is the SAME architecture as Ivy Bridge. How many times do we have to tell you that. According to this article you're not even going to get 8 core chips let alone 10 so someone remind me again why i would even consider 2011?

They are not the same! I've explained it too you several times in multiple threads. I've also told you a PLX chip ADDS latency which increases microstudder in multiple GPU setups.


Ivy Bridge-E = LGA 2011 = Quad Channel Memory Controller = No int. Graphics = 22nm process = X79 Chipset = Native 12 Core

Ivy Bridge = LGA 1155 = Dual Channel Memory controller = Int. graphics = 22nm process = Z77 = Native Quad Core


They are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. The architecture is in NO WAY similar. I've had a LGA 1155 Core i7 and a LGA 2011 Core i7 - the chips in size are completely different. Your absolutely ridiculous - please read up on subjects before you post your uninformed non-sense.

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What sort of TDP are we talking about for say an 8 core IBE with a 3.4ghz base and 3.8ghz turbo? 150W? 160W?


A 8 Core chip would be more likely 150W TDP. Intel already has 130W 8 Core processors - all they have too do is raise the clocks above 3.0GHZ and it'll be 150W TDP. Intel already released a LGA 2011 150W TDP processor - they won't hesitate to release more. Enthusiasts don't care much about the TDP.
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11/1/12 at 4:25pm
This is interesting, since I keep reading/getting told that select CPU's (Namely, 3930K/60x, some of the actual xeon's as well) had (2) cores lasered off/disabled/whatevered and I really have not found information that points one way or the other that suggests otherwise (aka purely rumor).

Looking forward to what IB-EP will bring to the table, but I've still got my mind set on a 3930K, dem renders.
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11/1/12 at 4:30pm
I felt prophetic yesterday when I mentioned it.
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I have absolutely no faith that any near future 2013-2014 Ivy E will be delivered as we would "like it to be". After the recent Xeons, IE locking. It altered me away from a 10K purchase.
We have no idea what the AMD BD failure has changed within Intel. Please correct me if i'm wrong. I want to be "Wrong", but AFAIK most of those projections about Ivy E's pending greatness were before BD failed.
What incentive does Intel have to release the hounds unless AMD or some other entity pushes them...?

While most would rather be right about impending Doom, than happy, I'd rather have a 8 - 12 Core(s) unlocked. We'll see.

Also I told you so. biggrin.gif j/k
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11/1/12 at 4:33pm
The problem is that the comparison between SB-E and Ivy is not valid when comparing Ivy-E vs. Haswell. Past history shows that Haswell will be a much larger increase in per core performance then Ivy Bridge was. Ivy-E hexas and Haswell quads will likely be much closer then a 3930k and 3770k are today. In fact the reality is Ivy and Sandy are almost the exact same chip and the argument could be made Sandy is the preferable platform throwing out the iGPU.

In fact if Haswell really is 15-20% faster in terms of total IPS improvements compared to Ivy which was the numbers thrown around earlier in this thread the two chips would be extremely extremely close even in multi-threaded workloads.

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Even 6 IB cores will easily beat a quad haswell. So people who actually do something other than game and have the budget for hexas would buy it for the best performance around.

But this just sounds really unlikely.

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11/1/12 at 4:35pm
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I was going to get X79 or what ever Intel has Next in the lineup but not spending $500 for a 6-Core CPU. They should drop that price to at least $400. Also lets hope they OC better then current IVY biggrin.gif.
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11/1/12 at 4:57pm
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i am not in my right mind yet i wouldn't even bother with X79 ethier way when Z75 and Z77 get the job done just as well biggrin.gif

unless you need more than 4 cores...
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11/1/12 at 5:03pm
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So.. . who's up for de-lidding a $1K Ivy Bridge-E CPU? smile.gif
they will more than likely be solder

IIRC they're going back to it for Haswell, and the reason they didn't use it for Ivy was simply because they could get away with it because TDP was low enough that a cheap TIM could do the job

with Ivy-E being much higher TDP as well as an enthusiast/workstation/server class product, I seriously doubt we'll see Ivy-E get the same treatment as Ivy, especially if Intel goes back to solder for mainstream Haswell
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11/1/12 at 5:18pm
I built my rig especially for IB-E. (for beast game machine and media producing)
I think it will be 8 cores. for the X chip and then 6 cores for the others. If it has more cores, hey i am cool with that.
dont disappoint me Intel.
4Ghz stock, 4.2Ghz turbo. hoping.

IF Intel does actually read/listen from consumers then IB-E should be a little special. i haven't felt a CPU give me a real sense of joy since SB, (reading the 980x VS 2600k, then looking at the price of SB in awe.)
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