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Originally Posted by Hukkel View Post

Those ideas are making the console go into pc territory.
You are not getting the principle of a console.
The games get optimised untill they can no longer. They are make for one specific hardware iand setting in mind. No eifferent cards, brands, windows, drivers, resolutions, detail settings etc etc.
And people buy one because there don't want to have upgrades. They want a box, a tv, a controller and a game. And be done for the coming 5 years.
And Sony wants to sell a new console after a few years, not a hardware upgrade. They make money because in the final years of the console the parts are extremely cheap so they make good money on it.
oh really? im pretty sure a large portion don't buy consoles so they dont have to upgrade. they buy it so they can play with their friends and enjoy games that are fun. and no different resolutions eh? hmmm...480p,720p,1080p? sega used to do just this. You'd buy an 8mb ram extension to make games run better IF YOU WANTED. People would pay to have better graphics or better performance. And 199 as quoted before is stupid. With the deals big makers get, they could put out an add-on that doubles the gpu power for 99$ and still make money. If this indeed has a 6670 or equivalent, having a gpubox(so to speak) would be viable. Double the gpu power for all of 30-40$ for the gpu(remember, sony gets massive discounts on hardware) and 20$ for a sony proprietary connector. sony pays 70$ for each box, sells for 100, and then you have enticement to buy a ps4 AND the box. will it happen? no. could it happen? you're damn right it could.
post #152 of 468
And we all know how Sega turned out right?

People can also play games with their friends on pc. And the PS3 runs all its games on 720p unless a developer chooses otherwise. In the game menu you don't get to pick the resolution you want.

The chances of it happening are near zero. Because it will give issues no one wants. Not Sony and not the developers. Only HDDs can be bigger and not matter for the game developement at all. All other parts will mean optimising for more choices and that is against the soul of the console itself.

Believe whatever you want, but there is no argumentation I have read that would make me think Sony would even consider it. Having an A10-5800k (being it slighly altered for the purpose) and a HD6xxx or HD7xxx to crossfire with will be enough for the console to work on the desired level.

Next to that we all know it won't be a straight swapped A10-5800k we can all buy in stores and for the GPU the chip will be on the mobo. So they're not literally buying a gfx CARD.
 
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post #153 of 468
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Originally Posted by almighty15 View Post

I don't own either console and never have, but I have had blasts at friends with these games and in every sense U3 blows gears away, the amount of environmental activity in U3 is unreal and by comparison GoW is dead and boring. You should stop posting shots that are smaller then native and that are bull shots as the game looks nothing like that.
uncharted3drakesdecepz38j0.gif
There is nothing in GoW 3 that touches U3 in motion...

In texture res and detail, it doesn't "blow gears away"

Those are native shots taken from direct feeds... Just click on them to make them larger.

Your gif image is the real bull-shot taken from 480p video and downsampled to hide the jaggies and increase image quality.

Just compare texture res and detail to your shot:

e32010gears3worldpremie.gif

uncharted3drakesdecepz38j0.gif

I already said that Naughty Dog is offloading work on the SPEs, and physics was one of them. Likewise, Gears 3 has higher res textures and FXAA.
Edited by BizzareRide - 11/4/12 at 12:49pm
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post #154 of 468
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Originally Posted by Hukkel View Post

And we all know how Sega turned out right?

People can also play games with their friends on pc. And the PS3 runs all its games on 720p unless a developer chooses otherwise. In the game menu you don't get to pick the resolution you want.

The chances of it happening are near zero. Because it will give issues no one wants. Not Sony and not the developers. Only HDDs can be bigger and not matter for the game developement at all. All other parts will mean optimising for more choices and that is against the soul of the console itself.

Believe whatever you want, but there is no argumentation I have read that would make me think Sony would even consider it. Having an A10-5800k (being it slighly altered for the purpose) and a HD6xxx or HD7xxx to crossfire with will be enough for the console to work on the desired level.

Next to that we all know it won't be a straight swapped A10-5800k we can all buy in stores and for the GPU the chip will be on the mobo. So they're not literally buying a gfx CARD.

We all know how the N64 turned out too, and they did the same thing.
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An APU is close to 7-8x faster then the ageing G70 architecture that powers PS3's RSX....
But all the rumours surrounding PS4 have always said it's an APU based machine with a dedicated GPU too...


you say 7-8x faster ?! No way. The fastest APU is probably just 2x or maybe little more when compared 7900GT
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Maybe AMD will have some real $ for r&d after developing a few (10?) million chips to Sony & Nintendo in a short space of time, time will tell.
Edited by MisterMalv - 11/4/12 at 1:30pm
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post #157 of 468
I just think it's funny there is someone on this planet that thinks Gears 3 looks better then Uncharted 3. In fact it's not even Uncharted 3. God of War 3 and Killzone 3 blow it away as well. Not. even. close.



As far as the rumor goes let's just all hope it's not true because an A10 without a dedicated GPU is awful and basically only allows you to run current gen games at 1080p rather then 720.
    
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you say 7-8x faster ?! No way. The fastest APU is probably just 2x or maybe little more when compared 7900GT

I disagree, my son's PC has an overclocked GT430 (don't laugh, great for 1366x768), it's double the speed of a 7800GT (PS3), mainly due to the frame buffer/memory speed, in DX9 games anyway.
In modern games, AMD's APU's are 50%+ faster than a GT430, so 6x faster is accurate I think.
Edited by MisterMalv - 11/4/12 at 1:44pm
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I just think it's funny there is someone on this planet that thinks Gears 3 looks better then Uncharted 3. In fact it's not even Uncharted 3. God of War 3 and Killzone 3 blow it away as well. Not. even. close.
As far as the rumor goes let's just all hope it's not true because an A10 without a dedicated GPU is awful and basically only allows you to run current gen games at 1080p rather then 720.

I just think its funny how you can't quote me directly because its a loosing argument and its your opinion vs. mine. Just let it go now because its getting boring responding to you. I think I've changed your mind against your own will and you can't really accept it and move on.

An A10 is at least 6x RSX accounting for architectural improvements and improvements to the memory bus. Combine that with the direct to the metal programming interface and I think an A10 would be a nice upgrade if they are going for a lower price point.
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AMD...

I wish the PS4 would have something equivalent to that of Ivy Bridge or Haswell. Should be faster, cooler and less power hungry.
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