Originally Posted by almighty15
I already showed on the last page that a 6670 is only 2-3x as fast when running in crossfire with the APU.
Not even APU + 7850 Crossfire is 6x faster across the board.
Saw this a few pages back also, maybe a couple of days ago.
My question is that wouldn't other things come into account for the performance of the graphics card?
Or does It rely solely on those "stats" which the hardware seems to be capable of delivering.
I'd expect the AMD Radeon 7850 to be able to deliver four or maybe 5 times what the RSX Is capable of. From your stats It seems It would offer 4x more as the minimum, but constantly PC gamers who claim to know their hardware are always saying how the hardware is really weak in consoles even for the time they have lasted and that their hardware is an X amount times more powerful than the PS3 and Xbox 360, while in most cases this is factual but It also depends on how you harness this power, GPGPU for instance If utilized correctly will blow the Cell's SPEs out of the water.
I personally expect the APU's CPU power to deliver around 4 times what the Cell is capable of, If not maybe 3x more, those SPEs seem to be still holding their ground but I think with a more "popular" and familiar architecture they'll be able to push out power to rival if not surpass the PS3's SPE's capabilities easier than using the Cell itself, however at the moment consider the GFLOPs the Cell is capable of It doesn't really look too good for the APU's CPU power, but then again I may be wrong, I believer It's the number of SPEs and the GFLOPs they are capable of delivering which have created a formidable foe to conquer, the PPE on the other hand is easily surpass able if they use the right hardware but those SPEs are dangerous, but It's GPU power should dominate the SPEs GFLOPs if used correctly, only this may create yet another problem where developers have claimed that the Cell processor is to hard to program for, hopefully they'll be able to get their heads around GPGPU otherwise I feel the same scenario will repeat again.
And It's GPU power which I'm not totally sure about around 3 times more, but even this doesn't seem enough to be able to run to our expectation they'll be a lot more VRam however 6 years down the line when possibly 2560x1400p may come into the mainstream market they would be problems at running it at that resolution, but with a 7850 this shouldn't be a problem so they must be aiming for a discrete card, I belive that the 7850 could possess around 8x or more than the RSX.
But clearly from your stats It appears I'm wrong, I know those Statistics matter a lot but are there other things to take into account about a single component's capabilities and when you compare it to other hardware?
Of course when you have the entire system, the CPU, GPU, Ram Speed and other components you can then really compare what It is capable of but wouldn't you be able to push out more power especially because of optimization as mentioned before, the new hardware available has a lot more Video ram than the RSX, is the video ram taken into account within those statistics? I know a decent amount about hardware and how they work but haven't really gotten the full picture especially when It comes to GPU power.
My personal expectations of the power the "PS4" could deliver is 4x more power than the PS3, you and everyone else have changed my opinions of what It could previously potentially produce, 8x does sound ridiculous when you are using budget hardware and comparing It to a console. (My previous assumption of possibly power)Edited by TopicClocker - 11/13/12 at 10:01am