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you guys do realize that google does not design the phones, right?
 
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This cloud stuff is annoying, especially if it's forced on us. Here in Gibraltar, my ADSL connection is 4 Mbps download and 0.5 Mbps upload. 3G is just 3G (not 4G and won't be for well over 5 years, probably 10) and is ultra-expensive and completely excluded from your regular SIM use (texts and calls). Depending on the cloud would mean:
1. Extremely slow to zero access to my data.
2. Uploading my data on someone else's computer in another country, essentially making it extremely insecure in my view. The data would also be subject to that country's laws and regulations, when my own country can be very loose, shall we say.
I don't care for multiple users - I buy a device, it's for me. I don't want to pay £100 more for 16 GB extra that costs about £10 as a Class 10 MicroSD card on Play.com. This greed is the realm of Apple, not very becoming of Google's motto.
Yeah, the cloud certainly isn't suitable for everyone. In fact, it's probably not very good for most people. But unfortunately it seems to be the way most things are headed anyway.

At least with the Nexus 4 it's cheap to begin with, but it's still paying £40 for an extra 8GB, when you can get a decent 32GB card for half of that.
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you guys do realize that google does not design the phones, right?
Not on their own - they have employees of the partner company come and work at the Google headquarters full time so they can work together on the project. To say that Google doesn't design the phones isn't true; to say the same about LG would be fibbing too.
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I think either way you look at it limiting phones use of a micro sd card and still charging us surplus to upgrade to a higher storage is going in the wrong direction.

Thinking more about it our phones are replacing more and more of our devices. My current device does 720p and 1080p is right around the corner. Android phones can easily function as a gps, gaming, movie viewer, social networking, hardware diagnoses, and mp3 playing device.

The average HD movie can easily be 1 to 1.5GB per a hour. Google offer discounted movies all the time and 8GB phone minus whatever the OS is taking is not going to cut it for movies.

GPS? Google maps now have offline cache to offer a faster coverage when getting around. Also, Android has a few paid gps services that can be easily a few GB's per a map that could be helpful to travelers.

I just installed the Birds Tale HD onto my device for gaming. This game is around 4GB's in length. Awesome game and well worth playing. I never had a xbox so this is my first play thru. No sd card? Looks like you might have to either cough up a lot more money for phone with more space or skip out on this lovely game.

Social Media and music work pretty well but what is the point of having quad cores if that is all we plan to use them for? My first android phone did that well enough. The nexus 4 in both the 8 and 16GB versions are steps in the wrong direction. Such devices need a base of at least 32 for the majority of android users to take advantage of what all google has in store for them. This applies to hardcore and non hardcore alike. Want to sell me movies, games, and large apps to work on my phone that can run and show them effortlessly? Then give us the space in which to do it. Otherwise it is a waste of good hardware. Keeping the price low by allowing us to add our own storage solves this problem.
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I think either way you look at it limiting phones use of a micro sd card and still charging us surplus to upgrade to a higher storage is going in the wrong direction.
Thinking more about it our phones are replacing more and more of our devices. My current device does 720p and 1080p is right around the corner. Android phones can easily function as a gps, gaming, movie viewer, social networking, hardware diagnoses, and mp3 playing device.
The average HD movie can easily be 1 to 1.5GB per a hour. Google offer discounted movies all the time and 8GB phone minus whatever the OS is taking is not going to cut it for movies.
GPS? Google maps now have offline cache to offer a faster coverage when getting around. Also, Android has a few paid gps services that can be easily a few GB's per a map that could be helpful to travelers.
I just installed the Birds Tale HD onto my device for gaming. This game is around 4GB's in length. Awesome game and well worth playing. I never had a xbox so this is my first play thru. No sd card? Looks like you might have to either cough up a lot more money for phone with more space or skip out on this lovely game.
Social Media and music work pretty well but what is the point of having quad cores if that is all we plan to use them for? My first android phone did that well enough. The nexus 4 in both the 8 and 16GB versions are steps in the wrong direction. Such devices need a base of at least 32 for the majority of android users to take advantage of what all google has in store for them. This applies to hardcore and non hardcore alike. Want to sell me movies, games, and large apps to work on my phone that can run and show them effortlessly? Then give us the space in which to do it. Otherwise it is a waste of good hardware. Keeping the price low by allowing us to add our own storage solves this problem.
Yeah, thinking about it I have to agree. The Nexus 4 seems a steal at £240 with 8GB of storage... but it's 8GB maximum, ever. No paying to expand it, unless you want to buy an entirely new phone. Even £240 with no onboard storage (or about 1GB available for user storage, like my Sensation) would seem a good deal, because once you have a microSD card slot you can add 64GB and beyond, if you want. If you don't need it, you don't have to pay for it, and if you only need 2GB you only need to pay for 2GB.

Let's face it, adding a microSD card slot isn't going to make phones look ugly, they already have a microSIM card slot which is usually barely visible, adding another slot of a similar size isn't going to make things much worse. If the phone has to gain 2mm in thickness, so be it. Phones reached a level of thinness a while back where they seemed thin enough anyway, so going backwards a little bit in that department seems a better option to me than going backwards in storage.

So, whilst I talked about it earlier and whilst it can be great, the cloud is not a viable alternative for media at the moment. When travelling I might not have signal, or the data connection might not be quick enough, or I might not have a large enough data allowance. Now I know when it comes to the Nexus 4 Google have their reasons for not including a microSD card slot, but it would have been nice to see 32GB and 64GB models available instead, though I guess the cost of manufacturing four models instead of one (when the 64GB model probably wouldn't sell much) would put the price of each one up, and clearly they've strived to make a high-end phone as cheap as possible here.

It just especially doesn't make sense when Google are expanding the Play Store to have very large apps and games, high definition films, music, books, etc. That's a lot of content to fit on an 8GB phone, and considering this is their only phone and therefore the flagship Nexus phone, you'd think it would allow you to try out as much of their content as possible.
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