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My Case Specs are the following.

NZXT Phantom 410 Case (Stock Fans Only)
Inter i7 2700k 4.5 GHz (OC)
Corsair H60 CPU Cooler
ASUS P8Z77-V Deluxe Motherboard
EVGA Nvidia GTX 670 2GB DD3
16GB Vengeance Dual Channel 1600 MHz RAM
1TB WD 7200rpm HD
LG Blu-Ray Burner 14x

Here is a summary of my temp stats.

CPU Idle : 35C - 36C
GPU Idle : 35C - 37C

Here is a summary of my temps while playing games at max settings or betch-marking with 3DMax

CPU Max : 58C - 62C
GPU Max : 57C - 61C

Games been played at max settings.
Guild Wars 2 (No FPS Issues)
BF3 (No FPS Issues)
Crysis 1 and 2 (NO FPS Issues)
Crysis 1 /w Graphics and FX Mods (Rarely have FPS hicupps)
FallOut Las Vegas /w ENB Graphics Modifications and HQ Texture Packs (No FPS Issues)
Skyrim /w ENB Graphics Mods and HQ Texture Packs (No FPS Issues)

I'm looking at upgrading to a H100 (Will be replacing the fans with better.) or go with a custom water loop kit.
I know a customer water cooling looks a lot cooler than a H100 but honestly wanted to reduce cost but also maintenance. I read that supposedly a custom water cooling kit requires a coolant cleanup at least every 6 months. But if this will my my temperature goal than i don't mind switching to a customer water cooling kit.

My Goals

OC the CPU from 4.5 to 4.7

CPU Idle : 28C - 32C
GPU Idle : 31C - 34C (Purchasing more fans on the case intake and exhaust)

CPU Max : 51C - 55C
GPU Max : 54C - 57C (Purchasing more fans on the case intake and exhaust)

Like i said i don't mind switching to custom water cooling kit but if a H100 with better fans and adding more fans to the case may help reach this goals i would prefer to go with the H100.

Please provide your feedback no trolling the devices if possible. Tell me what i cant or can do. Any type of setup recommendations are welcome as well. Do you think my temps are good so they don't damaged the CPU or GPU.
post #2 of 6
Your temps with the H60 are awesome right now.

If you intend to overclock some more then yes I would recommend at least the H100 with good push/pull fans but even then I don't see you getting CPU Max : 51C - 55C unless you go for a more exotic water loop. However, what you will get on an H100 (speaking from experience - see build log in sig), is comfortable temps in gaming but you will hit in the 60's C for sure.

As for your GPU staying at GPU Max : 54C - 57C with the purchase of more fans on the case intake and exhaust, that will help but not enough to keep those constant temps.

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Thanks for the feedback.

Do think my current temp max on the CPU and GPU still considered safe. ?
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The H100 will be significantly better than the H6O based on my experience with a 4.0GHz Phenom II X6. One thing you can do is get a bracket from DWood (OCN member) and move the H6O to your GPU. I have an old H5O on my 570 and it's silent and much cooler than stock.

Custom loop: Better looking, customizable, better theoretical cooling capacity, upgradable. More difficult to change components, time consuming to break down.

Closed loop: Easy to break down, great performance, looks OK. Not customizable without significant modding, not upgradable.

As far as coolant cleanup, I've had the same Corsair coolant in various layouts of my main rig's loop for YEARS. Literally 4 years at least, the same coolant! Never had a spec of debris, corrosion to components or evaporation over that whole time. I think this comes down to component choices (tubing, blocks, rad materials) and coolant choice.

Here's what the DWood bracket looks like in action:


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post #5 of 6
WoW

Thats an excellent idea, wanted to cover the GPU anyway, thanks, H60 on the GPU wont cover VRAM is that too dangerous ?

I definetly like the idea of not having to throw the h60 away.

I can get a H100 for 50$ so i guess going with the H100 on CPU and H60 on GPU i can have lot better temps compared to know and same money. Im not planning to OC the cpu over 4.8 anyway.
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NVM didnt nontice the custom bracker has a fan slot to cover the VRAM area. Nice !!
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