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post #1 of 16
11/2/12 at 7:48am
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Kinda lame only being my second post but whatever..

ok, so Im looking to build a new computer in the next couple of months(hopefully) and I was looking for some opinions on this selection of hardware:

Case : Azza Hurrican

Power supply: Rosewill CAPSTONE-750-M

CPU : i7 3770k (I know 3570k is good enough, I just have a hunch that hyperthreading may become more important in the next couple of years)

CPU Cooler: ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-B

Motherboard : Z77 Sabertooth

RAM: Undecided...at least 8 GB. Not sure whether to go 1866, or just go all out with 2660

GPU: Undecided, possibly GTX680 if budget allows

Hard drive: 128 GB intel SSD-boot drive, 2x 1TB 7200 rpm in RAID for data.

DVD drive, TBD...not really concerned

My current monitor is a 32" @1080p

This build will be mainly for gaming, but I tend to multi-task like a crack head.

PS I think this is everything, but Ive been up for a while now lol
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post #2 of 16
11/2/12 at 7:57am
If you're making it in the next couple of months don't bother, 1150 chipset will be out in the next 6 months anyway.

1866mhz or more is pointless, some nice 1600@9-9-9-24 is enough for 99% of applications out there.

Not sure about that PSU though, i've not seen too many people using them.

Comps
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11/2/12 at 8:04am
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Ivy Bridge is just fine for a current build. Haswell is set to release in 6 months like Comps said. If you ARE going to be building very soon, I'd go with what you have up there, but a few edits:

Motherboard: This board here is a much better board for the money. That ASUS is just hilariously overpriced, I think.

RAM: Get two or four sticks of this and call it a day. Overclocks like mad, runs cool, super cheap.

GPU: The 680 is an excellent card that runs really cool, quiet, and efficient. I can guarantee you that AMD fans will be here in just a bit to tell you how amazing the Radeon 7950 or 7970 is and posting benchmarks out the wazoo. Then the Nvidia fans will fire back about PhysX and CUDA and all that stuff. Please, further posters, let's not get into that. Recommending AMD or Nvidia cards is fine, but please do so respecfully without spamming ten pages of benchmarks. Thank you.
At 1080, the GTX 670 will be more than enough for your needs, most likely. I would get this one for $320 after rebate. If you want a 680, I'd recommend this one for cheap or this one for all out. The 4GB versions are massively overkill for 1080 resolution.

Power Supply: The Capstone is simply the best value PSU out there right now and amazing for the price. Super efficient, 5 year warranty, Superflower built units. Excellent choice.
Edited by coachmark2 - 11/2/12 at 8:08am
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11/2/12 at 8:27am
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Im not really worried about Haswell, cause I dont feel like waiting that long to upgrade. I was really thinking of getting some quality 1866mhz Ram and lowering the timings. On the AMD/Nvidia issue...I was considering going AMD for the GPU, but after listening to my friend ***** about their terrible driver support, I kind of lost interest... Thanks for the quick replies, I will respond to the rest of it after I get some sleep!
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post #5 of 16
11/2/12 at 12:01pm
There is no performance benefit from higher speed (or lower timing) RAM on Ivy, so don't bother spending extra for higher than 1600. I agree that the Sabertooth is way overpriced, if you want to stick with Asus then just get a standard P8Z77-V instead (or even the P8Z77-V LK). I also agree that the GTX 670 is the better choice - it is nearly the same performance (90~95%) as the GTX 680, and costs ~25% less. If you only intend to run a single card then there is no need to get a 750W power supply, the Rosewill Capstone 550-M would be plenty of power for the system you have listed.
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11/9/12 at 12:15am
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Sorry for the long wait for a reply. I do plan on going sli in the future, so the power supply, I think, is what I'll need. Im a little weary about that samsung ram...I like to tinker, but I dont have too much experience with overclocking RAM... I know Im risking starting a flame war here, but would it be worth going for the 7970 over the 680 or 670? I am kind of an AMD fanboy, but they havent impressed me all that much as of late..
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post #7 of 16
11/9/12 at 1:07am
Hey dude,

Well it depends, gaming the 7970 GHZ edition is better, by a fair chunk to be honest. However if you're using apps that can use CUDA cores then go with teh GTX.

As for wattage, you can do SLI 7970's on a 650w PSU. They aren't very high on power draw, that includes an overclock.

But hey to be honest, I myself would probably go for 750w just for that peace of mind.

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post #8 of 16
11/9/12 at 1:30am
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.97 @ CompUSA)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($159.49 @ B&H)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.00 @ B&H)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($389.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 760W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($159.00 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS DVD/CD Writer ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1227.42
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-09 04:26 EST-0500)

I'll leave the case up to you since you know what you like but if you tell me what you're looking for in a case I won't mind helping you out. smile.gif

The 7970 beats the 680 in terms of sheer performance by a lot. thumb.gif

The power supply I selected is one I swear by and is just an awesome PSU made by none other than Seasonic themselves, should also provide plenty of power for massive amounts of overclocking and a Crossfire/SLI setup for the future, not to mention a 5 year warranty that shows you just how much they believe that their products are top class.

The Samsung 840 Pro SSD is selected is the best one at the capacity you're looking for on the market, besides you get a free copy of Assasins Creed III as well so you basically knock off $60 off the price!

The Caviar Black 2TB would be much more reliable than a RAID array of two 1TB HDDs as you won't have to worry about one of them failing and losing all your data on the two drives. Besides its probably just as fast or even faster than two 1TB drives in RAID 1.

I would wait for the new Corsair Hydro Series CPU Coolers to be available before you get a cooler, but it's your money, not mine. smile.gif

Feel free to ask anymore questions.
Edited by StayFrosty - 11/9/12 at 1:33am
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post #9 of 16
11/9/12 at 1:39am
ON the above build

The PSU is miles too much, you don't need to dish out $150 on a PSU for a rig like this, you can get the Seasonic X750 750W PSU for $100.

Motherboard is entry level at best, drop another $40 on one and get either the P8Z77 Pro I think it is at $160 or thereabouts

You don't need a 2tb drive, and even if you did I'd still get two separate 1tb drives. You don't have to raid them and
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The Caviar Black 2TB would be much more reliable than a RAID array of two 1TB HDDs as you won't have to worry about one of them failing and losing all your data on the two drives. Besides its probably just as fast or even faster than two 1TB drives in RAID 1.

Wrong is so many ways. A RAID1 array has very little if any loss of performance. Incidentally, you're going with black drives which is pointless for data backup and music etc. He's be better off with 2 or 3 blues, run them separately or in a RAID5 array which will give him single drive redundancy. Using your logic, having 1 drive out of 2 failing is worse than having 1 drive out of 1 drive failing. Nice, zero sense there mate.

Incidently, if you go with RAID5 there is actually a small performance increase.

Comps

EDIT - Btw, the 7970 doesn't beat it by a lot, it beats it by an amount to make it worth it for the change but again it depends if he'll be using the CUDA cores or not.
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11/9/12 at 1:48am
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