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Originally Posted by threephi View Post

Just want to point out that nothing in this statement denies or refutes the possibility that they might come out with a new circle-free design, or at least one with fewer circles. It only says that they will continue to produce the stuff with circles, and aren't going to re-issue the old design. Nothing stated forecloses the possibility of releasing products with alternative designs while also keeping CSQ alive.
FWIW I have no skin in the game either way.

I disagree, as does everyone else on the thread where that comment was made.

It says that CSQ is here to stay.
It says that the old design isn't coming back (meaning the non-circle look, since that was the context to which he was responding ... ie taking the current technical design and just not put circles on it).
It says future new products will all have circles on them.

It is pretty clear that EK has rejected the notion of producing both a top with CSQ circles AND giving an order option for the same product without the circles.
post #12 of 20
Wow, Off topic....
I haven't been on there website in a while, and they changed it up.. I like the website.. but the circles are kinda "hmm" to me...
I primarily use EK stuff, and all my stuff is acetal and copper, like another poster said.. if the performance is good for the price then I would grab more EK stuff...
Now that there are more players in the WC game, we've got more options.
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This poses quite the conundrum for me. On one hand I actually do enjoy the CSQ design and the plexi blocks really help me show off my sick Mayhem's Dyes. But on the other hand I hate supporting a company this out of touch with their customers and that has exhibited such poor customer service. Just seems like they are too hard-headed to accept a failed design.
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Originally Posted by teamrushpntball View Post

This poses quite the conundrum for me. On one hand I actually do enjoy the CSQ design and the plexi blocks really help me show off my sick Mayhem's Dyes. But on the other hand I hate supporting a company this out of touch with their customers and that has exhibited such poor customer service. Just seems like they are too hard-headed to accept a failed design.

I feel your pain.

I'm not trying to tell anyone what to do. That isn't the purpose of this thread. I simply wanted to put in a central location what was said by an EK representative on OCN regarding the CSQ look vs the older look.

People will have to make up their own mind as to what to do with that information.
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Originally Posted by 47 Knucklehead View Post

I disagree, as does everyone else on the thread where that comment was made.
Well you and they are entitled to your opinions of course but I'm going by a strictly plain and unbiased reading of what is in that statement, also the comments others have said about back-channel info they are privvy to, as well as EK_tiborrr's posts here on OCN on this subject that have been referred to previously.

I want to state again that I have no financial or other interest in any watercooling companies or vendors one way or the other--I've bought EK blocks in the past, largely because of their performance and the sleek and simple unornamented look of the old design. I don't particularly like the new CSQ design but I don't hate it either. IMO it's no better or worse than the look of most other blocks currently on the market.

EK gets beat on pretty heavily around here, and yeah some of it is deserved. But a lot of it is just piling on IMO. Out of a sense of fairness, I don't think it's right to blame or accuse anyone of saying something that they didn't say. There are plenty of examples in the past where EK have put their foot in their mouth but IMO this isn't one of them.
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Originally Posted by Eddy_EK View Post

Hi Guys,
Two facts before your fantasy runs wild wink.gif
1. EK CSQ design is here to stay
2. Old design is not coming back
But new CSQ design may/will get developed further, as much as old design has been throughout the years.
The first step to supplying what customers asked us for, were single bridges and of course there is more to come in the future.
Enjoy the weekend!
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It says that CSQ is here to stay.
Correct.
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It says that the old design isn't coming back
Correct.
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(meaning the non-circle look, since that was the context to which he was responding ... ie taking the current technical design and just not put circles on it).
This is your interpretation, which expands what the statement covers ("designs") to a broader category not actually mentioned ("looks"). Nothing in the statement forecloses the possibility that a new design might have a non-circle look. I can't predict whether they either will or won't, I'm just saying that they didn't say so either way.
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It says future new products will all have circles on them.
I've read through Eddy_EK's statement about ten times now and I still can't find where it says this. This is a conclusion that in its logic includes speculative propositions not in the original statement. In fact there are other statements by other EK reps that have been referred to previously in this thread where they imply that non-circle designs are being worked on, for example:
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Originally Posted by EK_tiborrr View Post

Guys, keep in mind we have not forgotten about the folks that (still) don't find our CSQ attractive. You opinion is important, it's just that it cannot happen through the night.
This states that EK are at the very least considering, and perhaps actively developing, alternate lines or products for people who don't like the CSQ design. Admittedly this is rather vague, and again, I have no idea whether it will in fact ever happen, but at the very least it provides evidence that they are open to the idea of change, contrary to what you are asserting.
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Originally Posted by 47 Knucklehead View Post

It is pretty clear that EK has rejected the notion of producing both a top with CSQ circles AND giving an order option for the same product without the circles.
I think on balance, they have been rather vague but in no way has this possibility been shot down.

I will admit that it does seem that EK spokespeople can adopt a rather defensive if not combative tone sometimes, but IMO that's not entirely unjustified given how often they are attacked here. There's also the language barrier which sometimes makes their comments a bit awkward and hard to interpret.
Edited by threephi - 11/3/12 at 11:44am
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post #16 of 20
I bought a couple gpu circle blocks, but I'd certainly opt for the old design.

The new design is not as terrible in person as opposed to some picture. I have a backplate for my gtx 690 and decided to leave it off so my theme matches with the old EK stuff.

I understand that people are angry and dissapponted in the new design and I won't chop their head off when they say so. I seen some people getting mad that when they say they hate the new design, some other guy comes in saying they aren't that bad.
    
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Long as the performance is good i will keep on buying their blocks.
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With EK supremecy performing worse than several other cpu blocks, and now better choices exist for both aesthetics and performance, CSQ became irrelevant to me until EK gets a better performing cpu block. Hopefully by then though, they develop better aesthetics as well.
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wanna bullcrap free waterblock? buy a Titan for over a 1000$! hell yeah EK, kaythxbai thumb.gif


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Why does the non crop circles design only appears on the water block for the top of the line card?
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