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People are so dramatic. This isn't even DRM it is to create profiles that can be saved so that the mouse settings are preserved. I mean who doesn't have an internet connection in this day and age? It only needs internet connection to initially setup your profile. I see no issue here especially with the enthusiast consumer in mind (its a gaming mouse for gods sake what gamer does not have access to internet). The only issue I can see is that they did not list having an internet connection as mandatory on the box somewhere.
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People are so dramatic. This isn't even DRM it is to create profiles that can be saved so that the mouse settings are preserved. I mean who doesn't have an internet connection in this day and age? It only needs internet connection to initially setup your profile. I see no issue here especially with the enthusiast consumer in mind (its a gaming mouse for gods sake what gamer does not have access to internet). The only issue I can see is that they did not list having an internet connection as mandatory on the box somewhere.


Heh, says someone that doesn't have a Razer product ( a mousepad doesnt count its hard to EFF up a mousepad) and hasn't dealt with the nightmare of Synapse.

I opened razer synapse today to see if I could turn off the blinking mouse light... It does the same thing its done since August. It says updating razer synapse. It's now been on for 15 hours and still says updating.

the software is crap.
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^^ Surprised that someone didn't post the "who doesn't have an internet connection" earlier.

Personally, all this fuss for a mouse, no thanks, I'll buy something else. And to think I came this close to buying a mouse and keyboard from them.
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A company deciding to use a mouse as a means to harvest personal data is beyond crazy. Knowledge of something like this being implemented would go straight to the core of the company or likely even came from it. No Razer hardware for me.. ever.
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Always knew there was something dodgey about Razor.
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I mean who doesn't have an internet connection in this day and age? It only needs internet connection to initially setup your profile. I see no issue here especially with the enthusiast consumer in mind (its a gaming mouse for gods sake what gamer does not have access to internet). The only issue I can see is that they did not list having an internet connection as mandatory on the box somewhere.

Totally, and utterly besides the point.

An internet connection shouldn't be required to use it. In the same sense an internet connection shouldn't be required to play single player exclusive games. It increases the chances that you may not be able to use the product you paid for (example, lose internet. This is especially applicable to Satellite users). And, as already proven, you could also lose access should the authenticating server go offline. Ie: Something not your fault or within your control.

It amazes me how many people like yourself are willing and prepared to surrender to such rediculous restrictions on things you have legally purchased. A very unhealthy attitude - that kind of thing is why so many people have their freedoms and rights stripped away by individuals motivated by one thing; Profit.

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The new Synapse software has "cloud" support thats why you need to log on to save and load your profiles.

I'm sure that would be their excuse. How long will it be before we'll need internet access to simply turn our PC's on?
Edited by Thingamajig - 11/2/12 at 7:59pm
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I'm curious if this will propagate to other Razer products as well.

The only product I own is a Blackwidow Ultimate and have to say it isn't bad, definitely a step up from the shoddy G15 I used for a long time but if they're going to be pulling crap like this I'll happily trash it for something better.
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I have a blackwidow and deathadder and don't even have the razer software installed.
 
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People are so dramatic. This isn't even DRM it is to create profiles that can be saved so that the mouse settings are preserved. I mean who doesn't have an internet connection in this day and age? It only needs internet connection to initially setup your profile. I see no issue here especially with the enthusiast consumer in mind (its a gaming mouse for gods sake what gamer does not have access to internet). The only issue I can see is that they did not list having an internet connection as mandatory on the box somewhere.

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User Generated Information” means any information made available to Razer through your use of the Software. Subject to the Privacy Policy mentioned above, you expressly grant Razer the complete and irrevocable right to use, reproduce, modify, create derivative works from, distribute, transmit, broadcast, and otherwise communicate, and publicly display and perform the User Generated Information and derivative works thereof in any form, anywhere, with or without attribution to you, and without any notice or compensation to you of any kind.

By using Razer Synapse 2.0 (“Synapse”), the Subscriber agrees that Razer may collect aggregate information, individual information, and personally identifiable information. Razer may share aggregate information and individual information with other parties. Razer shall not share personally identifiable information with other parties, except as described in the policy below.

You don't see a problem with that? Not being able to use a mouse without activation is already a step in the wrong direction, and the fact that a real-time feed is maintained doesn't serve to eradicate suspicions.

Multiple steps in the wrong direction and plenty of competition means they don't get any money from me.
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I can say for sure im never buying a RAZER product doing this with hardware is just lame uncalled for.
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People are so dramatic. This isn't even DRM it is to create profiles that can be saved so that the mouse settings are preserved. I mean who doesn't have an internet connection in this day and age? It only needs internet connection to initially setup your profile. I see no issue here especially with the enthusiast consumer in mind (its a gaming mouse for gods sake what gamer does not have access to internet). The only issue I can see is that they did not list having an internet connection as mandatory on the box somewhere.

I don't see that as a problem, however I do see it this way.

It's a MOUSE, that requires an INTERNET CONNECTION to function at its maximum capacity (IE I can't use the macro functionality unless the thing can connect to the synapse system).

Does that not seem really stupid to you? I can set up macros all day on my G700, export them to a small USB key and install them on any computer I see fit.
EDIT: You should have a problem with this based on principle. It's not a good idea to make it always online. However cloud based macro storage is actually a great idea. This implementation is really excessive and unnecessary.

I stopped buying Razer products when I got my FREE Mamba 2 years ago. Mouse never worked right with the games I played, and Razer refused to see an issue with the mouse.
Edited by Ch13f121 - 11/2/12 at 7:55pm
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