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This is just pathetic. I haven't used a Razer product in a few years now and I won't be considering them again (regardless of this to be honest) but even then, collecting and selling information? As if they don't rip off customers already with their ridiculous pricing.
    
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From his facebook in reply to my message;

https://www.facebook.com/minliangtan
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We invented onboard memory for gaming mice many years ago and called it Synapse to allow gamers to bring their profiles with them on the go. However, we realized that we ran into another issue where we had to keep increasing the amount of memory onboard to provide for more storage and this resulted in higher and higher prices for gamers.

We then invented Synapse 2.0 where we could provide almost limitless amount of storage for profiles, macros, etc in the cloud as opposed to being limited by physical memory.

We wanted to avoid raising prices to gamers for higher memory space onboard (think about it like having to buy bigger and bigger hard drives as opposed to having all your storage on the cloud) and provide a much better service for our users.

Synapse 2.0 is NOT DRM. Our products work perfectly well out of the box without Synapse 2.0. Synapse 2.0 provides ADDITIONAL functionality of almost limitless memory in the cloud as opposed to taking away functionality (which is what DRM is).

We recognize that gamers will want to be able to use their gear without an online connection, and that's why Synapse 2.0 has an OFFLINE mode. Basically you have to register, create an account, save your initial settings and if you so prefer, you can stay in offline mode all the time without going online.

I realize that we have had issues with the activation server, and we're making sure we get that sorted out.
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Wow....so what if you get like last years model mouse? Will it still require this crap?
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I think you guys are over-reacting on the "spying" aspect of this Synapse 2.0
First of all,
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By using Razer Synapse 2.0 (“Synapse”), the Subscriber agrees that Razer may collect aggregate information, individual information, and personally identifiable information. Razer may share aggregate information and individual information with other parties. Razer shall not share personally identifiable information with other parties, except as described in the policy below.

This is for the cloud service they introduced in Synapse 2.0, which is fetching your profiles you set for your mouse from your computer uploading it to the cloud so you can get it anytime. This is what the information they are talking about, aggregated information: the profiles, personally identifiable information: incase something happens you can verify that it is you and retrieve your account back using the information that Synapse has
Edited by Degree - 11/3/12 at 9:41am
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I think you guys are over-reacting on the "spying" aspect of this Synapse 2.0

I disagree. Its apparent the only reason Razer made online only drivers is to watch what customers are doing and profit off the info by selling it to third parties. I dont understand how you dont think this is wrong?
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Wow....so what if you get like last years model mouse? Will it still require this crap?

as far as I know older mice you can still used archived drivers before the Synapse 2.0 garbage but Razer is proceeding with making Synapse 2.0 a requirement for newer products like the Naga 2012
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I disagree. Its apparent the only reason Razer made online only drivers is to watch what customers are doing and profit off the info by selling it to third parties. I dont understand how you dont think this is wrong?

They made it online because MANY gamers travel around with their mouse and they can get their profiles anywhere. So many during LAN events and tournies.

They are not watching what customers are doing, they have no reason to at all, and selling to third parties is just crazy, what could they possibly sell to third parties, and what third parties that can use what information Razer can collect?. They have no need to watch over us, unless it is the US Gov.
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From the Razer Synapse TOS agreement:

User Generated Information” means any information made available to Razer through your use of the Software. Subject to the Privacy Policy mentioned above, you expressly grant Razer the complete and irrevocable right to use, reproduce, modify, create derivative works from, distribute, transmit, broadcast, and otherwise communicate, and publicly display and perform the User Generated Information and derivative works thereof in any form, anywhere, with or without attribution to you, and without any notice or compensation to you of any kind.

I don't own a tin foil hat but, that seems rather vague/excessive for simply being able to use your mouse....

Don't see how that has anything to do with cloud storage. Well, maybe it could be they are looking at user mouse profiles to see how they can streamline their own out-of-the-box profiles but, that seems pretty lame imo.

@Degree, Yeah that LAN access makes sense.
 
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I think you guys are over-reacting on the "spying" aspect of this Synapse 2.0
First of all,
This is for the cloud service they introduced in Synapse 2.0, which is fetching your profiles you set for your mouse from your computer uploading it to the cloud so you can get it anytime. This is what the information they are talking about, aggregated information: the profiles, personally identifiable information: incase something happens you can verify that it is you and retrieve your account back using the information that Synapse has
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They made it online because MANY gamers travel around with their mouse and they can get their profiles anywhere. So many during LAN events and tournies.
They are not watching what customers are doing, they have no reason to at all, and selling to third parties is just crazy. They have no need to watch over us, unless it is the US Gov.

Saving profiles to the internal memory of the mouse itself would have been the clear way to handle this and other companies already do this. Cloud based, always online software is not needed and was never asked for. The TOS just reinforce what Razer intended
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