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11/11/12 at 11:58am
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Dude it's been pointless to go AMD for like a year. 2 years
fixed..sad to say..they've been inspecting their colons too long..they're probably gone;I'm disappointed and sad
970fx boards have been around since 3800+ days..I know..I have an old one;and it runs 3800+ like a bauss.
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post #32 of 56
11/11/12 at 12:04pm
For 95W but whatever.. http://www.asrock.com/mb/NVIDIA/N68C-GS%20FX/?cat=CPU
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post #33 of 56
11/11/12 at 2:48pm
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Not a performance related thread, but why won't the 83xx series run on existing AM3+ 970 chipsets if it already supports 125w Bulldozers?
Basically you now need a 990 now to run a 83xx series. That basically makes it pointless to go AMD now as you have to buy a 100 buck or more motherboard to even run a 83xx series processor.990 chipsets aren't cheap
You can run an i5-i7 easily on a 50-75 motherboard, depending on the features you want.
Basically this makes AMD less affordable in the high end lol

I think you are on the wrong forum mate . smile.gif

Most of the guys here know that quality boards that supported FX ,no matter the chipset used ,support the Vishera as well.

Gigabyte has some issues in reporting SOME boards based on older chipsets as not being compatible with top shelf FX ,but this is their problem ,AMD has nothing to do with it.

So much negativity from Intel users smile.gif
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post #34 of 56
11/12/12 at 7:43pm
Manufactures don't list the FX-83## on the cheaper boards because they want you to spend more money.

They originally said only the later revisions of their board would run Piledriver full stop, (the revision released just before the Piledriver CPU) they backtracked on that because people were up in arms about it.

All 970 Chip-set MOBOs run the FX-81## series CPU's, the FX-83## is the same chip improved, all 970 MOBO's will run the FX-83##'s.
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post #35 of 56
11/12/12 at 11:15pm
whats the big deal with lower end am3+ boards not supporting vishera out of the box? many sandy bridge boards diidnt support ivy bridge cpu on launch as well.
however in a few short months most motherboard manufacturers will release newer revisions of their existing boards or issue bios updates for existing boards.
whats the big deal?
and vishera is not a flop, its a good value cpu atleast the lower end ones
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11/13/12 at 12:02am
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whats the big deal with lower end am3+ boards not supporting vishera out of the box? many sandy bridge boards diidnt support ivy bridge cpu on launch as well.
however in a few short months most motherboard manufacturers will release newer revisions of their existing boards or issue bios updates for existing boards.
whats the big deal?
and vishera is not a flop, its a good value cpu atleast the lower end ones

Because PD is not on a new chipset like Ivy is, PD is plug'n'play with BD boards.
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11/13/12 at 12:41am
He is right, AMD dropped the ball. While running my Phenom II at stock was fine, Overclocking the 8350 is too much for it. *** AMD YOU NEVER TOLD ME THAT WOULDNT BE POSSIBLE WHEN I BOUGHT MY PSU. /jk

Nah seriously, maybe some board manufacturers aren't done with "testing", maybe some are too lazy to do it at all and just wont add any support for it (but hey you could just put it in your mobo and give it a try, but dont cry when it explodes.. maybe undervolting/clocking or going for a 6core would be better..).

BTW: Does it look like 990fx boards (in my case a Sabertooth Rev1) will support steamroller (I think I have read that its likely, but not sure..)? I'm still with my Phenom II (since BD wasn't tempting at all..) and could wait for steam, but if there will be no steamroller support anyways I would just grab an 8350.. rolleyes.gif
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11/13/12 at 1:18am
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He is right, AMD dropped the ball. While running my Phenom II at stock was fine, Overclocking the 8350 is too much for it. *** AMD YOU NEVER TOLD ME THAT WOULDNT BE POSSIBLE WHEN I BOUGHT MY PSU. /jk
Nah seriously, maybe some board manufacturers aren't done with "testing", maybe some are too lazy to do it at all and just wont add any support for it (but hey you could just put it in your mobo and give it a try, but dont cry when it explodes.. maybe undervolting/clocking or going for a 6core would be better..).
BTW: Does it look like 990fx boards (in my case a Sabertooth Rev1) will support steamroller (I think I have read that its likely, but not sure..)? I'm still with my Phenom II (since BD wasn't tempting at all..) and could wait for steam, but if there will be no steamroller support anyways I would just grab an 8350.. rolleyes.gif

That's the Board i have, but i also have a Phenom II x6 1090T running at 4.1Ghz / 3000Mhz CPU-NB; its prime stable, temps are 50c cores and 62c socket, i have been running it like that for nearly 2 years, its an absolute peach but i'm board with it and i have the up? grade itch.

I just don't know what to do......
Edited by Abundant Cores - 11/13/12 at 1:27am
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11/13/12 at 1:37am
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He is right, AMD dropped the ball. While running my Phenom II at stock was fine, Overclocking the 8350 is too much for it. *** AMD YOU NEVER TOLD ME THAT WOULDNT BE POSSIBLE WHEN I BOUGHT MY PSU. /jk

Nah seriously, maybe some board manufacturers aren't done with "testing", maybe some are too lazy to do it at all and just wont add any support for it (but hey you could just put it in your mobo and give it a try, but dont cry when it explodes.. maybe undervolting/clocking or going for a 6core would be better..).

BTW: Does it look like 990fx boards (in my case a Sabertooth Rev1) will support steamroller (I think I have read that its likely, but not sure..)? I'm still with my Phenom II (since BD wasn't tempting at all..) and could wait for steam, but if there will be no steamroller support anyways I would just grab an 8350.. rolleyes.gif

There has been recent news that Steamroller will be AM3+. Whether or not it's on the 990FX chipset in unknown. A lot of people are hoping for a 1090FX chipset to deal with the multi-socket Crossfire/SLI problems.

If you are truly on a Ph II x2, then PD would be a massive upgrade. Your power supply would be more then enough. However, an upgrade from the dated 8800GT would be a better first move, along with unlocking the 555 (if you're lucky, you can unlock both extra cores to make it a quad, along with the extra L3, making it a full 955) and overclocking it, which needs nothing more then a cheap CM 212 EVO to get reasonable results.
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That's the Board i have, but i also have a Phenom II x6 1090T running at 4.1Ghz / 3000Mhz CPU-NB; its prime stable, temps are 50c cores and 62c socket, i have been running it like that for nearly 2 years, its an absolute peach but i'm board with it and i have the up? grade itch.

I just don't know what to do......

In order for PD to be a worthy upgrade, you would need to hit at least 4.5-4.6Ghz on it. If you have a Sabertooth and good enough cooling (Which your Thuban OC suggests) then this should be a non-issue. However, then you need to think if the cost ($170 for even a 8320) really justifies the upgrade. Odds are, with a Thuban at 4.1, an SSD or GPU (or additional GPU as the case may be, please fill out a sig rig) would be a smarter upgrade.
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11/13/12 at 2:11am
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If you are truly on a Ph II x2, then PD would be a massive upgrade. Your power supply would be more then enough. However, an upgrade from the dated 8800GT would be a better first move, along with unlocking the 555 (if you're lucky, you can unlock both extra cores to make it a quad, along with the extra L3, making it a full 955) and overclocking it, which needs nothing more then a cheap CM 212 EVO to get reasonable results.

Sorry, my signature rig was a bit outdated. I'm on a PhII x4 @4Ghz. My 555 didnt let me unlock it (both additional cores were faulty, couldnt run them >1,2ghz) that's why my girlfriend has it now thumb.gif
I know my graphics card is a weak spot in my system, but right now it's still running the games I play (@1920*1200 with >60 fps) so I haven't felt the need to upgrade (yet, although I already checked the marketplace a few times.. all this outdated hardware makes me want some new shiny stuff rolleyes.gif).

But still a PD would be an improvement for me, although I'm not sure if it's enough.. I hope with Steamroller AMD can bring the power consumption down (or release some PD Eco Edition like with the Phenoms), which (sadly has to be/) is important for me. And seeing how much an OCed PD consumes makes me consider staying with my Phenom.

@Abundant Cores: Since you have the same mainboard: Are you using the onboard soundcard? Mine annoys me with "something has been plugged in/plugged out" notifications which causes a .3 second stop of the sounds which makes me angry. I think a pci soundcard comes next..
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