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So I'm an aspiring commercial artist and I'm thinking about upgrading from 1366 to 1155 for the sake of hopefully minimizing brush lag in Photoshop CS6 (and rolling most of my sig into a bedroom entertainment/office set up). I do know that Haswell will be here eventually and I have read the arguments of 3770k vs. 3820. $600 after taxes though is a pretty economical upgrade and I haven't read anything that says that even the 3930k will be faster for My needs as I'm not encoding or applying filters to batches, etc. I figure the difference in price of a 3930k vs. 3770k would pretty much cover a professional grade monitor.

Just thought I'd throw the thought out there and see if I get any feedback. Thanks All.

3770k @ $320
Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H @ $144
Windows 8 @ $70
Edited by BillOhio - 11/2/12 at 10:12pm
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I think you can still get Windows 8 off the Microsoft Site for $40, but as for everything else, seems like a solid upgrade, enjoy! thumb.gif
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since when is windows 8 an upgrade????tongue.gif
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^ Dunno, but a new OS for $70 sounds pretty decent and it sounds like some people here are liking it, especially the more they figure it out. I think that the $40 deal that Frosty mentions upgrades a preexisting copy of Win7 vs. being its own new OS. Also, if I do switch out my cpu I'm thinking this board would treat me better.
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If you have the money, go for it! I work in CS6 a lot and my 2700k @ home (OCd to 4.8ghz) is faster than my work comp even while folding. The 3770k will be even faster clock for clock.
 
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ummmmmmmmmmm hold the phone.

Brush lag in Cs6 with a quad core CPU????? I think you need to format your PC. I don't even get brush lag on my laptop with a dinky dual core i5.

First, format your PC and see if that helps. I know if I don't do a format once in a while, things start to bog down.

Second, sell off your memory and get 24GB samsung wonder ram and OC it as much as possible.

Third, make a ram disk out of 12GB of your memory and stick CS6 on there. That alone will DRASTICALLY increase your CS6 experience. It did for me with my i7 950.

Save your money and get a new screen. I too have a samsung syncmaster (T240HD), and I thought it was the best screen in the world until I got a cheap @$$ dell monitor off of ebay. I thought I was going to use the dell as my secondary screen for tv (and I still do), but it turned out to be so good that I am using it as my main monitor.

If you really want to become some sort of electronic artist, then you should really look at getting a PLS monitor from samsung or asus. They are utterly amazing for color accuracy and quality. Your passion uses your eyes, so spend your money where you are going to need it the most. We can fix your performance issues by being clever, but we can't overcome screen quality.
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ummmmmmmmmmm hold the phone.
Brush lag in Cs6 with a quad core CPU????? I think you need to format your PC. I don't even get brush lag on my laptop with a dinky dual core i5.
First, format your PC and see if that helps. I know if I don't do a format once in a while, things start to bog down.
Second, sell off your memory and get 24GB samsung wonder ram and OC it as much as possible.
Third, make a ram disk out of 12GB of your memory and stick CS6 on there. That alone will DRASTICALLY increase your CS6 experience. It did for me with my i7 950.
Save your money and get a new screen. I too have a samsung syncmaster (T240HD), and I thought it was the best screen in the world until I got a cheap @$$ dell monitor off of ebay. I thought I was going to use the dell as my secondary screen for tv (and I still do), but it turned out to be so good that I am using it as my main monitor.
If you really want to become some sort of electronic artist, then you should really look at getting a PLS monitor from samsung or asus. They are utterly amazing for color accuracy and quality. Your passion uses your eyes, so spend your money where you are going to need it the most. We can fix your performance issues by being clever, but we can't overcome screen quality.


This exactly. 3770 is not going to solve "brush lag" issues. You dont need a 3770 for photoshop. Make sure your computer is not being slowed down because its loaded full of junk and whatever.

Ideal setup is have your OS and adibe CS6 in an SSD, then use a mech HDD for storage. I 2nd a clean unstall and make sure you have a proper setup to be optimized for adobe.

You dont need a super awesome cpu for photoshop work unless you are working with tons of layers on a large project. I doubt you will be editing medium format photography so yeah... Locate whats causing your bottleneck/lag because i dont think its your cpu. Also do you have extensive design experience? This isnt really something that many people get rich doing.

Also the reason i say a 3770 will not fix your problem is because my old core2duo e8400 ran photoshop cs6 no problems and no brush lag thumb.gif hope you figure out why your having trouble wink.gif
Edited by Conspiracy - 11/4/12 at 6:28pm
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Looks like the op already has an ssd boot drive. Good points re: finding the bottleneck v. throwing parts at it.

Good idea to potentially upgrade monitors instead. I just picked up a Dell u2410.Best quality available for the price @ $450. Its an older design but better than some of the newer stuff. Haven't hooked it up yet but its going to be a big improvement over my old TN screens. Or you could go with something bigger, depends how much $ you have/want to spend.
 
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Thanks for the great advice. It's much apreciated, really. For the screen I was looking heavily at the new Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM as it has factory preset color calibrations. However I'm seeing $320 off of the Ultrasharp 2711 and will sleep on it but at $680 I can see myself putting in the order in the morning.

It's true, I do own a small SSD but I uninstalled it. It's only 64GB and as I never figured out how to redirect everything that wanted to save to my C drive, it sucked to use. My C Drive was full after about 2 weeks. If I'm not spending on other new hardware then I can see myself getting at least 2 bigger SSD's, one for the OS and Photoshop and another for the scratch disk. I'll wait for the Holiday sales on those, though I see plenty of the recognized 128GBs at $100 (I think).

I imagine I'll be 'painting' usually at 300ppi and around 10" x 14" with maybe a half a dozen layers at most. So far I've only used the rig with PS Elements as I still need to get a copy of actual Photshop.

I'm hearing good things about RAM Disks also, I'll look into that when the time comes.

As for experience, I'm an art school grad that's 'extensively' been a starving artist now for 17 years. portfolio link on the outside chance anyone cares.

And Maybe, just maybe, I'll finally learn how to OC my 930 too biggrin.gif

Much Appreciated All., Thanks So Much.
Edited by BillOhio - 11/4/12 at 8:33pm
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Redirecting installations is as easy as hitting the "custom" installation button on anything you install and just replacing your C with D (or E..F...etc)
 
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