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Poll Results: Ivy Bridge Delid first time success

 
  • 76% (134)
    First time success
  • 5% (9)
    First time fail - Nicked Die
  • 9% (17)
    First time fail - Nicked PCB
  • 1% (2)
    First time fail - Nicked Die and PCB
  • 2% (5)
    Failed other
  • 5% (9)
    Multiple Fails
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post #51 of 218
looks like not a good success rate so far.....
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Originally Posted by Shmerrick View Post

I cracked the die when i tried to put the block on directly. Anyone wanna buy a cracked 3770k?

Wow.. That's why people shouldn't direct mount. redface.gif
 
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post #53 of 218
im really glad delidding is back in style. i havent delidded a CPU since i was rockin a Opteron 165

the easiest way to do it is take the middle of a razar and cut out the corners first by pressing at 45 degree angle. once all corners are cut, use about 1/4 of an inch of the corner of the razor to cut down the sides of the CPU.
Edited by Namwons - 11/16/12 at 6:21pm
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Darn below 70 % . Don't see why , I found it very easy.
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Originally Posted by Dimaggio1103 View Post

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Originally Posted by VonDutch View Post

Success, first try.. thumb.gif
took me about 20 minutes to delid it..
my estimate is, 1-3 on every 100 will fail,
impatience/to fast is what i see most of the time as reason
i used this

So far its 6 fails out of 22 attempts. Not as good "odds" as some claim the process is.
Mine failed and not due to impatience I went at it for awhile, still failed. While others have success. It comes down to skill plus luck. IMHO.

odds can still change till we have 100 delidded ones ..lol biggrin.gif

and yes, im amazed how many fail while trying to delid their chips,
its way to many, thats why im trying to find a good/safe way to delid,
guess not everyone is handy with a box cutter or razor blade..

if you ask any of the delidders, "how easy is it to delid?",
almost everyone will tell you," its easy to do", because the actual delid is easy,
thats different then the chance/odds of them hitting the pcb, or worse, the die ..

i bet some of the story's go like this,
someone buy's a new 35 or 3770k, they heard/know its easy to oc,
then they try and see the high temps, google..stumble over answers like,
ivy runs hot, only/best thing you can do is delid...they google delid 3770k,
of course they come to this site, its on #1 or in the top 5 on google search,
they see the delid crew talk about , "its easy to do".."only thing you can do if you really want to oc ivy"

next thing you know, they sit at home with whatever knife/cutter/razor blade they could find,
and start cutting away, ...result ..another dead chip ..
THEN they come back, and start asking the most important questions,
"HOW do i delid? "

i see the same thing happen with OC's, peeps just buy a nice setup,
start hitting some buttons/settings, they fail the oc, THEN they come here and start asking,
"how do i OC?"
without, or almost nothing, first reading up about ocing, or in this case, delidding smile.gif
they only see us doing great/good oc's, talk about how easy it is to oc ivy/sandy etc...

last weekend ive let my 15 year old kid delid 3 pentium's,
he didnt scratch the pcb, or hit the die..on any of them,

of course i guided him through the process, and yea, its different doing it on a $1 chip,
or a $300 chip..point is, he did them all without problems..
one of the things he kept saying was, "i cant imagine how anyone can scrw this up" ..
you call it skills, or luck, hes got little/no experience at all handling a box cutter,
him being lucky 3x idk..

one of the things i would say after that weekend is,
if you have the chance to practice on some old pentium, pls do..
if you do 1 or 2 of those, the learning experience would be great,
better then watching any vid, or reading all posts about delidding.. smile.gif
which you should do anyways, in preparation of the real delid..lol
Edited by VonDutch - 11/17/12 at 3:01am
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odds can still change till we have 100 delidded ones ..lol biggrin.gif
and yes, im amazed how many fail while trying to delid their chips,
its way to many, thats why im trying to find a good/safe way to delid,
guess not everyone is handy with a box cutter or razor blade..
if you ask any of the delidders, "how easy is it to delid?",
almost everyone will tell you," its easy to do", because the actual delid is easy,
thats different then the chance/odds of them hitting the pcb, or worse, the die ..
i bet some of the story's go like this,
someone buy's a new 35 or 3770k, they heard/know its easy to oc,
then they try and see the high temps, google..stumble over answers like,
ivy runs hot, only/best thing you can do is delid...they google delid 3770k,
of course they come to this site, its on #1 or in the top 5 on google search,
they see the delid crew talk about , "its easy to do".."only thing you can do if you really want to oc ivy"
next thing you know, they sit at home with whatever knife/cutter/razor blade they could find,
and start cutting away, ...result ..another dead chip ..
THEN they come back, and start asking the most important questions,
"HOW do i delid? "
i see the same thing happen with OC's, peeps just buy a nice setup,
start hitting some buttons/settings, they fail the oc, THEN they come here and start asking,
"how do i OC?"
without, or almost nothing, first reading up about ocing, or in this case, delidding smile.gif
they only see us doing great/good oc's, talk about how easy it is to oc ivy/sandy etc...
last weekend ive let my 15 year old kid delid 3 pentium's,
he didnt scratch the pcb, or hit the die..on any of them,

of course i guided him through the process, and yea, its different doing it on a $1 chip,
or a $300 chip..point is, he did them all without problems..
one of the things he kept saying was, "i cant imagine how anyone can scrw this up" ..
you call it skills, or luck, hes got little/no experience at all handling a box cutter,
him being lucky 3x idk..
one of the things i would say after that weekend is,
if you have the chance to practice on some old pentium, pls do..
if you do 1 or 2 of those, the learning experience would be great,
better then watching any vid, or reading all posts about delidding.. smile.gif
which you should do anyways, in preparation of the real delid..lol

You know Im willing to bet the main problem is ot us that failed just being dumb or impatient as you or others seem to insinuate. If you ask someone who successfully delided, of course they will say it was easy, they where successful. However I digress. I think the problem is that once pressure of a big HSF is put on for to long it will make the gap between the IHS and the PCB even smaller, making it hard to get a blade in between there.

I would be willing to bet if you take a poll of those of us that failed, you will find some that did not use proper tools/patience but most of us that had the CPU under a massive HSF for weeks before hand making it more difficult. It would be interesting to see what all of us who have failed have in common, as to help those in the future who try.
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how exactly is this done, and what is the point of it?
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You know Im willing to bet the main problem is ot us that failed just being dumb or impatient as you or others seem to insinuate. If you ask someone who successfully delided, of course they will say it was easy, they where successful. However I digress. I think the problem is that once pressure of a big HSF is put on for to long it will make the gap between the IHS and the PCB even smaller, making it hard to get a blade in between there.
I would be willing to bet if you take a poll of those of us that failed, you will find some that did not use proper tools/patience but most of us that had the CPU under a massive HSF for weeks before hand making it more difficult. It would be interesting to see what all of us who have failed have in common, as to help those in the future who try.

my mugen in push/pull, isnt a real light cooler,
it was under there for a few months..
the pentiums we practiced on, prolly where under pressure for years,

yea, im trying to gather as much info/tips possible for future delidders,
man, i even spend time,effort,cpu's and money to find better/safer ways to delid..
impatience is one of the reasons ive heard more then once,
also, not taking breaks...thats why i used it in my post smile.gif



someone took the effort to measure the gap between ihs and pcb,
at max pressure, without delid, the ihs would rest on the die, but there would still be a gap of about 0.14mm,
the thinnest razor blade used, is about 0.009 mm
Edited by VonDutch - 11/17/12 at 11:20am
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how exactly is this done, and what is the point of it?

i delidded, because i thought i bought a great cpu, thats is a very good overclocker,
but when i started ocing it, i couldnt go higher then 4.4-4.5ghz,
i hit max temps, 105C, within seconds of running prime..

ivy can run much higher oc's , when temps arent the limitation,
some run 5.0-5.1 ghz 24/7 after delid..i cant, im limited by voltage,
but 4.8-4.9ghz is my max oc for 24/7 with mine now..after delid ..lol biggrin.gif
Edited by VonDutch - 11/17/12 at 11:11am
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You know Im willing to bet the main problem is ot us that failed just being dumb or impatient as you or others seem to insinuate. If you ask someone who successfully delided, of course they will say it was easy, they where successful. However I digress. I think the problem is that once pressure of a big HSF is put on for to long it will make the gap between the IHS and the PCB even smaller, making it hard to get a blade in between there.
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My 3770k was under a water block bolted very tight for months. And when I delidded mine it wasn't easy. It took 45 minutes because it was hard to get the razor between the PCB and IHS but using the delid guide and reading all I could on delidding helped a lot. I think taking your time and using the thinnest razor you can find is key IMO.
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