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You need to add BPGC.local to list of your DNS suffix search list. it's not shown in ipconfig /all output.
DNS server accepts queries from you, this is seen in seconds nslookup output
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Its a no-no because if Windows switches to it for whatever reason (local DNS becoming unavailable), you won't be able to resolve local host names. Even if the primary local DNS comes back up, Windows likely won't switch back.
As mentioned above, nslookup appears happy so the DNS server is accepting queries properly. Again, as mentioned above, you're missing the DNS suffix - it needs to be added to the VPN connection list.

 

 

Thanks for your patience guys, I'm new to the whole DNS suffix setting -- I'm still having a little trouble.

 

The setting keeps reverting. I think I may not be entering the proper string. 

 

Here is a video that conveys the issue better than I could explain:

 

 


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That is wierd, can you add dns suffix to your "Local area #2" nic just to test if the same behaviour remains?
 
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That is wierd, can you add dns suffix to your "Local area #2" nic just to test if the same behaviour remains?

 

That did the trick - I am now able to resolve hostnames.

 

When I added it to LAN #2, it retained the setting. It also appeared in BPGC VPN settings. Is it a global setting?

 

Side Topic:

Is including a DNS Suffix in the configuration settings standard operating procedure for creating a Windows VPN connection, or is this work around to solve a problem with my server configuration?

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It's not global, your vpn is established over LAN #2 and it retains dns suffix when connected to vpn.

This is a workaround for your current problem, normally dhcp pushes domain name (option 15) from the vpn side.

ipconfig output above says:
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DHCP Enabled No
but from the video, you have auto configuration enabled, which is kinda wierd.

For troubleshooting, use wireshark to capture dhcp requests/replies when client is getting a lease.
 
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It's not global, your vpn is established over LAN #2 and it retains dns suffix when connected to vpn.
This is a workaround for your current problem, normally dhcp pushes domain name (option 15) from the vpn side.
ipconfig output above says:
but from the video, you have auto configuration enabled, which is kinda wierd.
For troubleshooting, use wireshark to capture dhcp requests/replies when client is getting a lease.

Autoconfiguration != DHCP
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I've got the same problem on a different computer.

 

Do I need to open a port for DHCP on my gateway firewall at my office? I'm guessing no... But want to check.

 

It's strange that both computers failed to register a DNS suffix. Both computer's ipconfig state "DHCP Enabled: No". 

 

If DHCP is disabled, how is it getting an IP address within the DHCP pool?

 

@mybeast: I'm familiar with what WireShark is, but never had the opportunity to learn how to use it. How do I apply the DHCP filter for the NIC?

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The PPP server assigns you a virtual network interface. There is no DHCP involved - the PPP server has already gotten address leases on its end for each VPN port/virtual NIC. Your client computer does *not* request DHCP when establishing a VPN connection which is why DHCP is not enabled on your client interface, simply because it can't (not in the same broadcast domain, it wouldn't know how to contact a DHCP server for the VPN). This is the correct behavior.

DHCP is not the issue here - make sure your DNS suffixes are set correctly and that's all you need.
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Wow, you explained that perfectly. I had one of those "ah-ha!" moments reading your explanation and everything clicked.

 

The only thing I don't understand is why the connection-specific DNS suffix does not automatically configure - on any machine.

 

I can't resolve hostnames on any remote computer, on any remote network  (unless setting the suffix).

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Wow, you explained that perfectly. I had one of those "ah-ha!" moments reading your explanation and everything clicked.

The only thing I don't understand is why the connection-specific DNS suffix does not automatically configure - on any machine.

I can't resolve hostnames on any remote computer, on any remote network  (unless setting the suffix).

What DHCP server are you using (both for localnet and for the network the VPN server is on)?
Additionally, what are you using for VPN (i.e RAS on Windows, etc).

While DHCP is not the issue, adding the search names option to DHCP (both networks) will give you the DNS suffix you need - but need to know what systems you are using first.

I am using, for example, Routing and Remote Access on a Server 2008 R2 box along with Microsoft DHCP and DNS. I have configured option 15 on the DHCP server that serves the RAS (VPN) ports - and it works without a problem:
Code:
PPP adapter VPN Connection:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : home.local
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VPN Connection
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
   IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.33(Preferred)
   Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
   DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.1
   NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Unfortunately, resolving hosts on the other network still isn't that simple.

This is a common issue:
Quote:
VPN clients will not be able to resolve DNS host names on the internal network if they are not assigned a DNS server address by the VPN server. In most cases, the VPN client already has a DNS server address assigned to it. However, that DNS server address does not resolve names on the corporate network because that DNS server is intended to resolve names on the network the VPN client computer is attached to before connecting to the VPN server, or to resolve only Internet host names.

The solution to this problem is to configure the VPN server to assign a DNS server address to the VPN clients.

http://www.isaserver.org/img/upl/vpnkitbeta2/dnsvpn.htm

You can follow the guide there or alternatively you can configure your local DHCP server to hand out the DNS server address that lives on the VPN. Depending on your DNS server on your local network, you could also connect that machine to the VPN and set up a forwarder so that hosts on the VPN side can get resolved (the DNS server will forward requests it can't handle to the server you configured).
Edited by tompsonn - 11/6/12 at 7:41pm
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What DHCP server are you using (both for localnet and for the network the VPN server is on)?
Additionally, what are you using for VPN (i.e RAS on Windows, etc).
 
While DHCP is not the issue, adding the search names option to DHCP (both networks) will give you the DNS suffix you need - but need to know what systems you are using first.
 
I am using, for example, Routing and Remote Access on a Server 2008 R2 box along with Microsoft DHCP and DNS. I have configured option 15 on the DHCP server that serves the RAS (VPN) ports - and it works without a problem:

 

  • Localnet DHCP is handled by an Airport Extreme.
  • Domain DHCP is handled by the Domain Controller (SBS08)
  • VPN is RAS (SBS08)

 


 

Now, forgive me if I am being a complete rook here - but...

 

Would disabling "Obtain DNS server address automatically" and setting my own (of 10.10.0.10/8.8.8.8) be causing the issue (as you mentioned earlier)?

 

I set DNS to auto on LAN 2 and DNS to 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 in my Airport Extreme (per your recommendation) and everything seems to be working the way it should.  

 

Is this the way I should be configuring my remote locations? If so, I think you guys solved this and we can put this thread out of it's misery.

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