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Hello,

I'll preface this post by admitting that I have never built a computer before. My knowledge base is spotty, but I can read, and I'm not afraid of a little research. I am also planning to pay the $25 for access to Assassin's HTPC blog prior to ordering.

Will the components I have listed below work well together? A few questions/concerns I have:

Will these parts fit the case I have spec'd? Will the tall RAM fit without clearance issues?
Will this power supplu work with the Ivy Bridge Processor? (oddly, the title on Newegg specifies Sandy Bridge. I assume this will work with Ivy Bridge too, but I don't know.
Will I have space in this box for a TV tuner? I plan to get a lot of content via newsgroups, and OTA digital HD TV signal (free). I will probably get rid of cable TV altogether, but I'll have cable internet (Comcast), and an antenna for OTA HD. I'll want to be able to record 2 programs while I watch a 3rd. (again, not via cable TV, just OTA). My primary use will be getting content from Newsgroups/Sickbeard.

I expect many will tell me that the corei5 chip is overkill. I know, but I just don't want to step down to an i3, as some light gaming is in my plans.

Thanks for any help you can offer, and please let me know if I have overlooked anything.

Dan in Mpls


Case
SILVERSTONE Black Aluminum skin over plastic front panel, 0.8mm SECC body Grandia Series SST-GD05B-USB3.0 Micro ATX Media ...
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Power Supply
PC Power and Cooling Silencer MK III 400W Modular 80PLUS Bronze Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandy Bridge Core i3 i5 ...
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Processor
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
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RAM
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
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MoBo
ASUS P8H77-M/CSM LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
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LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
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SSD
SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC128D/AM 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) Desktop Upgrade Kit
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Hard Drive
Western Digital WD Green WD20EARX 2TB SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
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post #2 of 24
Hey Dan! (This is Krautwagen f/MNSBR)

Build looks good, I actually had a GD-05B build that I sold over there. It's a nice roomy case, just make sure you have phillips screwdrivers that fit well in Silverstone's fasteners as they're a bit soft. There's plenty of room in that case to fit a big graphics card, TV tuner card & 1-2 more PCI devices.

8GB of DDR3 memory is cheap enough right now, might as well get that for some future-proofing. Also, I would buy standard profile RAM instead of something with tall heatsinks. The reason being that tall heatsinks may interfere with some of the popular low profile CPU coolers that will fit in that case. The stock Intel cooler is too loud for some people. Popular coolers are Scythe's Big Shuriken and Shuriken Rev B. Looks like the Big Shuriken has been discontinued and replaced with the Big Shuriken 2 - I'd look into one of those if I were in your shoes.

The PSU will be great, but you will need to upgrade it if you go to a serious gaming video card. As long as you're buying a quality unit with an 8 pin (or 4+4) CPU connector (ATX ESP spec), it will work with any mainstream CPU. The important part about selecting a PSU is the wattage/amperage. Big users of power are the CPU & GPU (video card) - if you're running onboard video or a light duty video card, you'll be fine with a 350W to 450W PSU. If you upgrade to serious gaming video card, you'll probably need to upgrade that to 500W or 650W. FWIW, I run a 380W in my HTPC with a decent video card capable of light duty gaming.

To record 2 channels at the same time, you'll need a 'dual tuner' TV tuner card. I use & recommend the Hauppaugge 2250 media center kit:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815116036

Hope that helps.
Smalls
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HTPC
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 3570 Asus P8Z77I-Deluxe EVGA GTX 660 Ti SC Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 8GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB Scythe Big Shuriken 2 Windows 7 Home 64 Bit Silverstone SST-ST45SF 
Case
Silverstone SG05-450 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X2 560 MSI 785GM-P45 MSI HD6570 1GB DDR3 Microcenter/A-Data DDR3 4GB 1333 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ Agility 2 Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB Samsung Bluray Scythe Big Shuriken 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 Home 32 Bit Vizio 26" LED/LCD TV Antec Earthwatts 380 w/modded fan SilverStone Milo ML03B 
Other
Hauppauge 2250 Tuner 
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HTPC
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 3570 Asus P8Z77I-Deluxe EVGA GTX 660 Ti SC Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 8GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB Scythe Big Shuriken 2 Windows 7 Home 64 Bit Silverstone SST-ST45SF 
Case
Silverstone SG05-450 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X2 560 MSI 785GM-P45 MSI HD6570 1GB DDR3 Microcenter/A-Data DDR3 4GB 1333 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ Agility 2 Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB Samsung Bluray Scythe Big Shuriken 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 Home 32 Bit Vizio 26" LED/LCD TV Antec Earthwatts 380 w/modded fan SilverStone Milo ML03B 
Other
Hauppauge 2250 Tuner 
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post #3 of 24
I think the build will work. Right now, however, the AMD APUs outperform Intel's integrated graphics and would cost significantly less ($130 @ Amazon.com). Even with a dedicated card, the price to performance ratio slightly favors A10, but I might go with the i5 in that case.
post #4 of 24
You have selected a good MoBo, but If it was me, I would ditch the old PCI slot for an additional new PCIe slot.

You are asking for a TV tuner, which if internal comes with a x1 PCIe.
If you upgrade from integrated audio, you will need an additional 1x PCIe

One option for that MoBo would be the ASUS P8H77-M PRO

By the way, the Power Supply is Ok.
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250x2 RAID0 + 500 GB Seagate 7200 SATAII DVD+/-RW LiteOn SATA W7 Ultimate x64 Samsung 2053BW 
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post #5 of 24
i know you didnt ask, but i think the node 605 is a beautiful looking htpc case. give it a glance see what you think.
post #6 of 24
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Thanks for all the input everyone. I appreciate it.

I'll definitely upgrade the RAM to 8GB, and low profile. It doesn't look like NewEgg has a search option for low profile. Does it matter if it is laptop memory vs. desktop? Or will any DDR3 240 pin RAM work OK? do I need to be concerned with latency numbers? Any tips on selecting the right speed RAM?

Thanks too for the TV tuner tips (added), and the upgraded MoBo. I took both bits of advice.

I think I'll stick with the Intel chip for this build, but thanks for the AMD suggestion.

The power supply I picked because I don't know when/if I'll add a stand alone video card, and I have read that power supplies tend to run most efficiently in the middle of their rated power range.

The suggested case DOES look nice, but I don't want a full sized ATX case--I want Micro ATX. (Also, it seems odd that mini is smaller than micro. Derp).

Dan
post #7 of 24
Re: Memory - low profile typically means shorter than standard. Laptop memory is usually referred to as SODIMM, and is completely different than desktop memory. You just need to pick out memory with normal-ish heatsinks. Avoid the big tall stuff. Don't worry about latency or speed (1333 or 1600 is fine), you're not overclocking it and any differences there will barely be noticeable in real world usage.

I didn't notice your mobo had a oldschool standard PCI slot. I second mcastaneda68's recommendation to go all PCI-express. Most any device you'll want to add will be available in PCI-x1.

Mini-ATX is almost non-exsistant... I'd forget you even read about it.
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HTPC
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 3570 Asus P8Z77I-Deluxe EVGA GTX 660 Ti SC Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 8GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB Scythe Big Shuriken 2 Windows 7 Home 64 Bit Silverstone SST-ST45SF 
Case
Silverstone SG05-450 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X2 560 MSI 785GM-P45 MSI HD6570 1GB DDR3 Microcenter/A-Data DDR3 4GB 1333 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ Agility 2 Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB Samsung Bluray Scythe Big Shuriken 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 Home 32 Bit Vizio 26" LED/LCD TV Antec Earthwatts 380 w/modded fan SilverStone Milo ML03B 
Other
Hauppauge 2250 Tuner 
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Smalls
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HTPC
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 3570 Asus P8Z77I-Deluxe EVGA GTX 660 Ti SC Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 8GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB Scythe Big Shuriken 2 Windows 7 Home 64 Bit Silverstone SST-ST45SF 
Case
Silverstone SG05-450 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X2 560 MSI 785GM-P45 MSI HD6570 1GB DDR3 Microcenter/A-Data DDR3 4GB 1333 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ Agility 2 Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB Samsung Bluray Scythe Big Shuriken 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 Home 32 Bit Vizio 26" LED/LCD TV Antec Earthwatts 380 w/modded fan SilverStone Milo ML03B 
Other
Hauppauge 2250 Tuner 
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post #8 of 24
Maybe Dan is talking about Mini-ITX, which is indeed smaller than Micro-ATX
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E7200 @ 3.39 Asus P5Q-EM BFG 8800 GT OC 512MB 4GB - 2x2GB HyperX 800 MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
250x2 RAID0 + 500 GB Seagate 7200 SATAII DVD+/-RW LiteOn SATA W7 Ultimate x64 Samsung 2053BW 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft Comfort curve 2000 Corsair 650TX Cooler Master Elite 330 Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 6000 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E7200 @ 3.39 Asus P5Q-EM BFG 8800 GT OC 512MB 4GB - 2x2GB HyperX 800 MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
250x2 RAID0 + 500 GB Seagate 7200 SATAII DVD+/-RW LiteOn SATA W7 Ultimate x64 Samsung 2053BW 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft Comfort curve 2000 Corsair 650TX Cooler Master Elite 330 Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 6000 
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None 
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post #9 of 24
Thread Starter 
Yes, I was referring to mini ITX. These acronyms are mostly all new to me, so thanks for the correction.

In any event, I do intend to build on the micro ATX size platform.
post #10 of 24
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Hey OC'ers

I walked into PC Microcenter today, as they have a good deal on the processor I want for this project, the i5-3750K LGA1155 for $170 (Newegg wanted $230), and the clerk (who was really helpful), told me that they sell boards at $40 off if you are also buying a CPU. They didn't have the board that I wanted (the board suggested above by mcastenada68, but they did have a good price on the Z77-M varient of the board, which I think is similar, but a slight upgrade.

I'll have to sheepishly admit that I am not sure of the differences between the boards, but I do recall reading that the Z77 boards are an upgrde over the H77 boards, and IIRC, they allow overclocking. I'm not sure I intend to do any overclocking anyway, but the price for the Z77 board ended up being $105, (after my $40 off because I'm also buying the i5), which is cheaper than the $130 for the H77 board from Newegg.

I'll list the links to both boards below. Would anyone with the knowlege to differentiate take a peek and let me know if this looks like a board that has the capabilities I need (dual band tuner card, possible expansion for a video card or an audio card)?

Thanks!

Dan in Mpls

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131825


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131833&name=Intel-Motherboards
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