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    GO FOR IT MAN!!! moaaaaar coaarss errrr. moaaaaar herrrtzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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    don't do it! dont kill your cpu!
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post #131 of 172
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thanks. im gonna think about this again. maybe I can squeeze out my wallet a bit more for a replacement...the plastic card thingy method doesn't look so dangerous to me. I'm so close in doing this again. I might just surprise the thread with a "SUCESS! or an oh knoess post". thanks again OCN you guys really rock thumb.gif

Do post pictures if you do!
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I have actually owned both processors. I preferred my sandy bridge due to the fact it can clock higher on cooler temps. Without having to risk delidding. Ivy is a big fail in overclocking, intel was so cheap the had to use crap tim. I will be sticking with my amd rig until they bring back the overclocking glory that is sandy.

I can't wholehearted agree with this post with my experience. My only gripe with Ivy (or at least my specific CPU, mobo, RAM combo) is that it won't go past 2000mhz for my RAM (3770Ks can with this mobo). My old 2550K + P67 were great, but since I sold my TJ07 rig for a Prodigy build, it only made sense to get Z77 + 3570K, since it is difficult to sell a motherboard by itself and there weren't many P67/Z68 itx boards.

Granted, I have watercooling, here were typical temperatures I experienced with my old and current setups:

2550K @ 5ghz 1.48v (high 80C) - could do Prime95 for a few hours
3570K @ 5ghz 1.41v (high 80C) - instant crash in Prime95

2550K @ 4.8ghz 1.4v (high 70C)
3570K @ 4.7ghz 1.264v (low 70C)

2550K @ 4.5ghz 1.3v (low 70C)
3570K @ 4.5ghz 1.16v (low/mid 60C)

3570K wins in benchmarks, but for gaming and most usage I do, they are similar (even stock vs overclocked). I definitely agree that Ivy is not worth it if you already have Sandy, but the little new features of Z77 could be appealing to some (such as faster POST/booting). Not to mention that Ivy has a much lower heat/power output (this is different from core temps).

People really need to stop associating high core temps with high heat output. Ivy outputs less energy, so it outputs less heat when comparing to Sandy.
    
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post #132 of 172
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3570K wins in benchmarks, but for gaming and most usage I do, they are similar (even stock vs overclocked). I definitely agree that Ivy is not worth it if you already have Sandy, but the little new features of Z77 could be appealing to some (such as faster POST/booting). Not to mention that Ivy has a much lower heat/power output (this is different from core temps).

People really need to stop associating high core temps with high heat output. Ivy outputs less energy, so it outputs less heat when comparing to Sandy.

this is what pissed me tbh. I was touching the nearest heatpipe on my NH-D14 to the cpu and it doesn't even get warm overclocked and running prime95 rolleyes.gif ( i had an i7 950 before this and it was wayyyyyyyyyy different) if intel wasn't so much of an ass cheapening out the bond between IHS and die we would've gotten the most epic cpu made to date. alas they decided to screw us over.
post #133 of 172
It is the most epic cpu to date, but intel did a bit of a turnaround from sandy bridge. Sandy was awesome for air & water cooling, but the extreme coolers were disappointed. Ivy is awesome for extreme cooling, but the air/water coolers are disappointed.

Have to wait & see if all will be pleased with haswell, it would be cool if it did great on air, & then scaled with cold too.
    
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post #134 of 172
You are in control.

You know you want to De-Lid.

Just do It
!*


*A friendly not for profit IB cooling delidding message. Be careful when Delidding.
Edited by SonDa5 - 11/9/12 at 11:28am
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post #135 of 172
So I see we got a hot llittle i5 here huh?? Delid it man just read the thread and get your info right.
post #136 of 172
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I did it last night to my chip without a scratch. You do have to push pretty hard to get through the glue which is unsettling. But in the end the feeling is awesome. I had $0 to back this up... Seriously I would have been crushed and my wife would have flipped out had I lost the chip. In the end now that it was successful am I glad I did it? YES!


IB overclocker right of passage moment. cheers.gif
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post #137 of 172
Maybe you could drop the frequency a bit and watch the temp. My 3570K runs 4.4GHz with Vcore offset +0.04, everything else on Auto, core temps ~70C prime95 Linux. My Phenom II under same load barely reaches 50C, so Hivey runs hot.
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Maybe you could drop the frequency a bit and watch the temp. My 3570K runs 4.4GHz with Vcore offset +0.04, everything else on Auto, core temps ~70C prime95 Linux. My Phenom II under same load barely reaches 50C, so Hivey runs hot.
You can't compare to different architectures.
But you can say at the same voltage Ivy even with its lower TDP compared to Sandy has a higher core temp due to Intel not using a fluxless soldering method but using TIM.
Architectures still aren't the same but close enough, AMD and Intel you can never compare!
AMD has a max temp spec of 62C on the Phenom II Line whilst Ivy has a 90/105C spec.
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Maybe you could drop the frequency a bit and watch the temp. My 3570K runs 4.4GHz with Vcore offset +0.04, everything else on Auto, core temps ~70C prime95 Linux. My Phenom II under same load barely reaches 50C, so Hivey runs hot.

coming from a phenom ii, it has nothing on sandy/IB. The immense jump in performance is worth the extra heat.
 
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Maybe you could drop the frequency a bit and watch the temp. My 3570K runs 4.4GHz with Vcore offset +0.04, everything else on Auto, core temps ~70C prime95 Linux. My Phenom II under same load barely reaches 50C, so Hivey runs hot.
Real/core temp might report that, but those aren't the real temperatures
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