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  • 52% (61)
    GO FOR IT MAN!!! moaaaaar coaarss errrr. moaaaaar herrrtzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
  • 47% (55)
    don't do it! dont kill your cpu!
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post #21 of 172
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Originally Posted by Dimaggio1103 View Post

Don't do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I owned a 3570K and de-lided mine, and it broke. Could not afford to replace it so I downgraded to AMD. Just to put this in perspective, I am a PC repair tech of the past 8 years. In the shop I worked in They made me do all the laptops because I had the steadiest hand. Yet I still messed this up. Not trying to say it takes and expert but thats how uncertain it is.
Also, I am not saying it can't be done, plenty of people do it just fine. But its hard work if you already had a big heatsink on it smashing the gap even tighter. Its not worth it for just a few more MHz.
Enjoy your Ivy and leave it alone.

this post worried me a bit. I am confident with my hands but I'm nowhere near experienced as you are with computer parts. thanks smile.gif
post #22 of 172
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Originally Posted by jeffblute View Post

throw some water on it thumb.gif

not gonna help. the problem lies between the die and the ihs heat transfer.
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tbh I made this thread for people to encourage me and push me to have the balls to do it. I was so close of doing it right now but after this reception I concluded that delidding my cpu isn't the best idea than I thought it was. I' could probably just run it at 4.5ghz and ignore the high temps. I only use my pc for gaming so my temps wouldn't reach that high at normal scenarios but still it's in the back of my mind that there's something I could do to fix this albeit it could potentially kill my cpu.
thanks OCN. keep em coming. that's why I love it here. thumb.gif +reps to everyone

good decision based on the other info you've provided.thumb.gif
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post #23 of 172
you can always delid later... I waited a few months before I did mine. goodluck.
post #24 of 172
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Well, don't delid your CPU just yet. It sounds like the problem is with your cooling and not your CPU.
Try cleaning your heatsink and PC from dust, replace the TIM with something new and good, download another program to see if that 90 degree reading is messed up.
Then the next step would be to lap your CPU and THEN to delid it.

my pc is newly built and It's really clean and dust free. I'm using a new TIM atm Gelid GC Extreme and from what I've read it's a very decent thermal compound. I can't believe I never considered lapping my cooler/cpu (I've done this a couple of times already) the temp reading is definitely legit. I've used more than one programs and even aida64 OSD and temps are pretty much the same

sidenote: I've had this NH-d14 on my x58 system for a long time. I did notice there were some marks/mild scratches left on the NH-D14 when I removed it from my previous system. I figured it wouldn't make a ton of difference. just thought of mentioning it
Edited by jprovido - 11/4/12 at 6:43pm
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Confident enough to have a 680 and Z77 mobo run by a broken chip? I don't know your finances, but the risk vs reward if you are truly broke is 0 reward vs 100% risk. If this sounds like a good plan still, please don't go into financial advising, as I feel bad for your clients.

Hard to think im agreeing with MR SB is God..

But if you do not have the funds to replace it then it is not worth it..

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22nm

Smaller you make a processor the less overclockability it'll have. The space between safe voltages grows smaller. Also shrinking a processor also guarantees a shortened life expectancy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_impedance That **** applies.

Ironically at the same time it significantly lowers your powerconsumption and the demand of phases on a motherboard for a steady clean voltage.
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post #27 of 172
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22nm
Smaller you make a processor the less overclockability it'll have. The space between safe voltages grows smaller. Also shrinking a processor also guarantees a shortened life expectancy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_impedance That **** applies.

it's been proven countless times that this theory with ivy bridge cpus are not correct fyi. high temps were the result of the increased gap between the IHS and the cpu die because intel cheapened out the process with using thermal paste and gluing the IHS instead of the usual bonding process that they did with sandy bridge processors.
Edited by jprovido - 11/4/12 at 6:57pm
post #28 of 172
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Originally Posted by SpeedyVT View Post

22nm
Smaller you make a processor the less overclockability it'll have. The space between safe voltages grows smaller. Also shrinking a processor also guarantees a shortened life expectancy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_impedance That **** applies.

Wheeeeee so we can not keep are Cpus for 10 years... i hope nobody does that?!

Im sorry Bro Die shrinking is the future.. get used to it.



Dam you Intel for ruining the cpu for those who wanted to keep it forever!

Were all gonna have to Switch to AMD nothing has really changed over there Since 2009 lachen.gif
Edited by Hokies83 - 11/4/12 at 6:53pm
    
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I'm all up for die shrinking long as it's efficiency is improved. I think 22nm is too much it's infancy stages to buy. Sandy Bridge is where it's at for now. The argument I made was only to demonstrate that early adopters always get screwed over.
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post #30 of 172
Time to save up and get watercooling. thumb.gif
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I'm all up for die shrinking long as it's efficiency is improved. I think 22nm is too much it's infancy stages to buy. Sandy Bridge is where it's at for now. The argument I made was only to demonstrate that early adopters always get screwed over.

I'd would disagree with that. I just built another Prodigy for a friend last week and it ran fine with the stock heatsink (4ghz @ 1.06v) temps wouldn't go past 70C with Prime95 AVX. It also uses the same CPU, mobo, and RAM as I do.

My own system runs 4.7ghz @ 1.264v at around 65C to 70C with Prime95 AVX. Granted that I have a watercooling setup, but I was able to achieve around 4.2ghz at my stock voltage with the stock cooler and not go past 70~80C during Prime.
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