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So in Biostar A770E3 bios, there's a setting:

DRAM Timing Configuration: Memory Clock Mode [Auto][Limit][Manual]

Limit "the speed will not exceed this value
and manual i guess is like 'it will be this value"

So what is the difference in these two? Does anyone know? I just know that Manual mode causes some huge stability issues, but with Limit I haven't had a problem for 2 years.

Anyways these values refer to the memory ratio.

Also, what is Channel Interleaving and Bank Interleaving? Anything I find on both of these is years old, back when ddr2 was the rage. I can't really understand what they do. For reference, I'm running dual channel, unganged, 2x2GB Kingston HyperX 1333mhz RAM. i've looked forever on these things, found some stuff on it, but doesnt really explain anything and not sure if what i found was relevant anymore.
     
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You want to manually enter your RAM timings. Also make sure your DRAM volt and speed are the appropriate ones to your RAM. Leave everything else like Channel Interleaving and Bank Interleaving on auto or whatever the mobo wants.
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Yes, i already have. but these settings dont refer to my timings, it refers to memory clock speeds. ive increased vdimm to 1.65 and for ram speed i actually set the ratio lower from 1333mhz to 1066mhz, but my 253 fsb makes it so that my ram speed is 1348 (674 ddr). My ram timings have been tightened by 2 to 7-7.etc.

My question is to set dram configuration: memory clock mode to limit or manual, and about interleave.
     
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So does anyone know what the difference between Limit and Manual are?

I mean cpu-z in "Memory' seemed to show my increased speed (674 mhz DRAM frequency). I entered it all in manually... I just dont see what the difference between limit and manual modes are, except manual was not stable at all.

It's just"Memory Clock Mode" [auto][limit][manual], and if you pick limit or manual, you have choices of 1066, 1333, 1600, etc (basically RAM dividers).
     
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Bump?

I really can't find anything on this. I saw one guy somewhere on the internet say the same thing as me, taht he couldnt get 'manual' stable but he was perfectly stable at 'limit'.

Why is that? Am I doing something wrong when I use limit instead of manual? I mean cpu-z seemed to show my 674 (x2 = 1348mhz) speed.
     
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Bump... I'm still confused on this. Biostar hasn't really given me an answer to this ;/
     
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"Limit" keeps speed at a limit so that it does not exceed that value, so that it lowers it automatically as necessary. How I think it is useful is if you are mixing memory DIMMs and one DIMM may run at a higher speed than the other (i.e. DDR2-1066 to DDR2-667). When the first DIMM is in, you will be limited to DDR2-1066. When you place the second DIMM in, it will automatically choose DDR2-667 (so as to remain stable with DIMM 2) when you add the RAM rather than stay "manually" at DDR2-800. So limit is sort of a cross between auto and manual. I'm not sure why you'd be getting stability on "limit" but no "manual".

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When you place the second DIMM in, it will automatically choose DDR2-667 (so as to remain stable with DIMM 2) when you add the RAM rather than stay "manually" at DDR2-800.

I'll assume that's a typo and you meant DDR2-1066 again there. So if you have 2 dissimilar sticks, ie 1066 + 667, running limit 1066 means the 2nd stick will run at 667 automatically, or the highest it's stable too (or it's JEDEC standard maybe, whatever).

I'll just run Limit then, and not worry about why it's more stable than manual. I've heard others say this too (most people seem to not bother to try out limit, most set it to manual, but ive heard a few people say they got more stable with limit over manual).
     
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