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Corsair Link is a total fail in my book. Too many cables and gadgets combined with clunky software.

I will be picking up a ax860 however just not the i edition.
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Corsair Link is a total fail in my book. Too many cables and gadgets combined with clunky software.
I will be picking up a ax860 however just not the i edition.


You are smart, I am stupid. The AX860i is not ready for prime-time.
    
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No man this is not my unit, this is a very poor engineering decision, Yate Loon? What were you thinking? Give me an AX860 without the i , the Seasonic based unit. I’m very familiar with the AX850 for two years, it provides clean power and does not spin at all when working with Microsoft Office Apps, the AX860i blows its ******* horn every 12 minutes for no reason at all, same wattage, same apps.
Look at my specs George, I could not be a more perfect test bed for Corsair products. This is a ****ed up fan profile.
I already have your words George about this fan issue in private message that supersede anything you have stated here, if you wish me to copy and paste I will.
Do not **** with me George, when we both know the simple truth.mad.gif
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Late reply, I know. Its exhausting air - not pulling it in.

Yate Loon has a phenomenal reliability record, man. The brand of the fan isn't the issue, if anything, it's an engineering decision that you disagree with, and that's fine, but let's not pretend that Yate Loon was chosen to save 10 cents or something.

the issue you had coming out of sleep mode makes sense, and is our fault. The rest, probably not. Copy and paste away dude. I have nothing to hide.
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Yate Loon has a phenomenal reliability record, man. The brand of the fan isn't the issue, if anything, it's an engineering decision that you disagree with, and that's fine, but let's not pretend that Yate Loon was chosen to save 10 cents or something.
the issue you had coming out of sleep mode makes sense, and is our fault. The rest, probably not. Copy and paste away dude. I have nothing to hide.

Goodbye AX860i, Hello AX860.biggrin.gif
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George,

Any word / insight on how to resolve the loud fannoise @ startup?
I don't experience the problems MeanBruce sadly experiences, I only got @ startup the annoying loud noise. Can firmware resolve this in the near future or is this hardwarebound?
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George,
Any word / insight on how to resolve the loud fannoise @ startup?
I don't experience the problems MeanBruce sadly experiences, I only got @ startup the annoying loud noise. Can firmware resolve this in the near future or is this hardwarebound?

No, it's necessary with the design of the product.

In order for the system to be able to correctly specify the PWM duty cycle of the fan, it needs to know the maximum speed of that fan. Each fan will vary +/- 10% from the manufacturer's spec, which can be significant to the performance.

So for example, my AX860i will test the fan and find it runs at a maximum of 2500 RPM, while yours might test the fan and find that it runs at a maximum of 2700 RPM.

It also knows that at 50C, and 100% load, it needs the fan to run at around 1250 RPM.

So it assigns that duty cycle on my unit to be 50%, and on yours to be closer to 45%.

Some GPUs do this as well - on boot they max out their fans, and then after 10-30 seconds, they slow down to idle speeds. Same reason.

The complaint meanbruce has (and it's a valid complaint) was that the fan we chose was chosen because of its lifespan and specifications, and in order to save time, we did not do a custom motor that only goes up to 1500-1700 RPM or something, we just chose the already in-production 2700 RPM variant. Even though under normal use, the fan will never hit that speed aside from startup (or coming out of sleep mode), it can be somewhat irritating.

In future products we'll address this - we've heard your complaints and we'll take care of it.

If you can put up with the initial spin-up being high, the product is still one of the best power supplies in the world, from an electrical and performance standpoint. Any review can help verify that.
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No, it's necessary with the design of the product.
In order for the system to be able to correctly specify the PWM duty cycle of the fan, it needs to know the maximum speed of that fan. Each fan will vary +/- 10% from the manufacturer's spec, which can be significant to the performance.
So for example, my AX860i will test the fan and find it runs at a maximum of 2500 RPM, while yours might test the fan and find that it runs at a maximum of 2700 RPM.
It also knows that at 50C, and 100% load, it needs the fan to run at around 1250 RPM.
So it assigns that duty cycle on my unit to be 50%, and on yours to be closer to 45%.
Some GPUs do this as well - on boot they max out their fans, and then after 10-30 seconds, they slow down to idle speeds. Same reason.
The complaint meanbruce has (and it's a valid complaint) was that the fan we chose was chosen because of its lifespan and specifications, and in order to save time, we did not do a custom motor that only goes up to 1500-1700 RPM or something, we just chose the already in-production 2700 RPM variant. Even though under normal use, the fan will never hit that speed aside from startup (or coming out of sleep mode), it can be somewhat irritating.
In future products we'll address this - we've heard your complaints and we'll take care of it.
If you can put up with the initial spin-up being high, the product is still one of the best power supplies in the world, from an electrical and performance standpoint. Any review can help verify that.

Thanks for the answer George, appreciated +REP smile.gif
Well for me it is not that big of an issue, seeing it justs spins for like 7-8 seconds very loud and
from that on can't hear it anymore. My PSU does its job very good, true enough wink.gif

Now waiting for the 900D for my new wc-build...
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yeah... all i hear is Corsair is this awesome brand, awesome customer care and all that... i dont own any Corsair product, and i was looking into getting one of these psus, but after reading this thread i think the best i can do is a simple ax750 (i read a ton of good reviews on that one)... and maybe a case or something (u cant really mess up when u build a case, as long as the engeneering and quality of materials is there, i guess)

Also, why is it that the design of these new PSUs (the "i" series) remind mr so much of BeQuiet PSUs design?? It looks really nice but im sure they could be a bit more original... im being picky i know, but if i am to buy a 200€/USD power suply, it needs to be PERFECT in any way, and not just in reviews; so i understend why some of you guys are dissapointed after buying these things

PS: i live in france and ive noticed on a couple of sites here that the number of reconditioned Corsair SSDs exceeds any other manufacturers... seriously, there are just too many returned drives out there for me to ever be able to consider buying a Corsair SSD... thats another reason for me to be a bit skeptical about buying a fancy PSU (that is not actually made by Seasonic) from them
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yeah... all i hear is Corsair is this awesome brand, awesome customer care and all that... i dont own any Corsair product, and i was looking into getting one of these psus, but after reading this thread i think the best i can do is a simple ax750 (i read a ton of good reviews on that one)... and maybe a case or something (u cant really mess up when u build a case, as long as the engeneering and quality of materials is there, i guess)
Also, why is it that the design of these new PSUs (the "i" series) remind mr so much of BeQuiet PSUs design?? It looks really nice but im sure they could be a bit more original... im being picky i know, but if i am to buy a 200€/USD power suply, it needs to be PERFECT in any way, and not just in reviews; so i understend why some of you guys are dissapointed after buying these things
PS: i live in france and ive noticed on a couple of sites here that the number of reconditioned Corsair SSDs exceeds any other manufacturers... seriously, there are just too many returned drives out there for me to ever be able to consider buying a Corsair SSD... thats another reason for me to be a bit skeptical about buying a fancy PSU (that is not actually made by Seasonic) from them

In all fairness: in reviews the new PSU's from Corsair do stand out from the crowd and in my direct surrounding more people have the new PSU's with no problems at all. Only thing I'm encountering is a loud fan on start, but that's all.

Keep in mind that most people with problems make themselves heard, but people without problems are to busy gaming wink.gif
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In all fairness: in reviews the new PSU's from Corsair do stand out from the crowd and in my direct surrounding more people have the new PSU's with no problems at all. Only thing I'm encountering is a loud fan on start, but that's all.
Keep in mind that most people with problems make themselves heard, but people without problems are to busy gaming wink.gif

Yeah, nobody posts "I bought the product and it works exactly like I'd hoped!" on the internet.
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