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Although a bit ironic, I don't think anyone can even tell who Anon really is.

How do we even know that Anon did this? What if some group of basement dwellers wanted to mischief and get some fame by claiming to be Anon.

And more so... what does Anon even accomplish? It seems every news about them is leaking passwords and email addresses. Big woop. Jesus.

Do something better will ya?

Whats next: Anon releases 10,000 Overclock.net passwords and emails.... oh noes!
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Want to impress me, anon?

How about hacking into some multi-national company and transfering some funds into a struggling charity.... that would impress me rolleyes.gif
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A quick 5 second google search takes you right to the leak...

a Setup.exe of "paypal passwords" is clearly a virus.

I can't seem to find the real post.
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Right. They are ultimately to blame. But as someone pointed out earlier, the exploit has been known for a while, and so this equates to Paypal sharing some of the burden of responsibility. Who get's sued when someone slips and falls on a wet floor? The janitor?
You can argue for morals and rights all day, unfortunately it's the $ that walks.

My understanding is that paypal normally either reverses or refunds any unauthorized transactions/transfers.
If they don't, then you can sue them, same as with any business which refuses to refund fraudulent transactions/transfers.

should be no need for a 28000 person lawsuit against paypal.
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While I tend to agree that what these people have done is wrong. I think a certain point seems to have been missed here. Anon is a very large movement and the actions of a few doesn't make it the actions of many. From the comments that I've read thus far it seems the entire group is being generalized as a single entity when in fact "Anon" is made up of many different groups.
    
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While I tend to agree that what these people have done is wrong. I think a certain point seems to have been missed here. Anon is a very large movement and the actions of a few doesn't make it the actions of many. From the comments that I've read thus far it seems the entire group is being generalized as a single entity when in fact "Anon" is made up of many different groups.

^This. Who knows how many people were involved, how high in the anonymous hierarchy (if there is one) they were, and whether they were even from anonymous? It's like saying all people with liberal or conservative beliefs, or those who claim to have those beliefs, are bad because a fraction of them committed an act of violence.

It's downright naive, IMO.
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Right. They are ultimately to blame. But as someone pointed out earlier, the exploit has been known for a while, and so this equates to Paypal sharing some of the burden of responsibility. Who get's sued when someone slips and falls on a wet floor? The janitor?
You can argue for morals and rights all day, unfortunately it's the $ that walks.

My understanding is that paypal normally either reverses or refunds any unauthorized transactions/transfers.
If they don't, then you can sue them, same as with any business which refuses to refund fraudulent transactions/transfers.

should be no need for a 28000 person lawsuit against paypal.

I was wondering why they changed their EULA to have users agree to not perform a class action lawsuit against them. They may have known about this for some time and decided it was time to cover their asses in the even something like this were to happen again.
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All right well I'm just gonna go ahead and throw in the towel on my previous statements and go back to one of my old stand-bys:

Consumer:



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You do not improve airport safety by blowing up an airport.
You do not improve nuclear safety by hijacking nuclear bombs and destroying some cities.
You do not improve fire safety by starting fires.
You do not rob a bank to improve bank security.
You improve safety and security by notifying the relevant authorities and possibly by arranging a demonstration.
If they do not listen, then notify other authorities, including journalists.
If no one still listens, then it seems your concerns do not deserve attention.
Victory and Success at any cost or loss is EVIL.

Actually... 3 of those 4 ARE how we increase said securities...
post #80 of 125
Right, so has the Paypal attack been confirmed?
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