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Umm... I dont really remember but your board doesnt have enough power or somethibg with 3+1 vrms .: overclocks are limited. Cant support enough power for higher clocks. Thats why higher end boards get 8+4/8+2.

But yeah, id say 3.7 @ 1.5v is very good and stable 24/7 overclock. In fact its a really good result considering the board is a 770.
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Umm... I dont really remember but your board doesnt have enough power or somethibg with 3+1 vrms .: overclocks are limited. Cant support enough power for higher clocks. Thats why higher end boards get 8+4/8+2.

The problem with a 3+1 power phase is that it will easily overheat and blow up, because voltage loads are focused entirely on 3-4 phases instead of 8+ phases (so what would be a fine 60*C on 8+1 would be 120+*C on 3+1... not exactly, but basically).

It's more like an issue of "you motherboard is either exploded or not exploded". My motherboard is not exploded, and I've done quite a bit of tweaking to make sure it doesn't (6 x 120mm fans on 100% speed, 1x80mm fan, heatsink on vrm's).
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But yeah, id say 3.7 @ 1.5v is very good and stable 24/7 overclock. In fact its a really good result considering the board is a 770.

What difference would it make?

I'm a bit confused what you mean. I don't get how a motherboard, besides having a higher or lower fsb max value, would determine overclock stability. The only thing I see the motherboard determining is more like safety, ie you probably shouldn't try to overclock a phenom x4 on 1.55+ volts on a 3+1 power phase but there's nothing exactly stopping you from doing it.

Whereas I can't exactly run a 955 on 5ghz on air because temps and stability would both be a limiting factor.

Anyways, Mystery Temperature readings "Thrm/TMPIN0" in HWMonitor and temperature 1 in HWINFO gets up to a max of 47*C. I think it's my motherboard socket temps. If anyone else with a biostar a770e3 could talk about what the 4 temperature readings the motherboard gives out are, that'd be great (i think there's 2 socket monitors, the motherboard chipset northbridge, and some other temp i think maybe ambient or case temp). I am not sure if the coretemp reading is really accurate, i dont trust AMD core sensors, my athlon core temp was always ridiculously below ambient.

On a side note, CPU-Z says 125w TDP, but HWmonitor says 113 TDP.
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So far I've run about 6 hours of P95, 3.7ghz@1.502. I'm going to let it run the night for priority 10.

It seemed like it was p95 stable at 3.8ghz@1.568v yesterday night, I stopped the test after an hour because the VRMs got to 90*C and the core was hovering 60-61*C.

I still can't get a definitive answer on what a safe VRM temperature limit is. I've also heard people talk about 'the heat wall' with phenom 955, but it looks like this phenom might take another .5v for 100mhz. I'm still not too sure how dangerous 1.568v is so... ill just see if this 55*C, 3.7ghz, is rock stable and we'll work on more stuff tommorow.
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Damnit. Screen freeze, prime95 priority 1 while doing some surfing, about 7 hours into the test. At least it wasn't bsod, so that's a good sign (i'm not as far off from where i want to be).

Could someone please explain to me how to read prime95 results -
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[Wed Nov 07 01:37:16 2012]
Self-test 240K passed!
Self-test 240K passed!
Self-test 240K passed!
[Wed Nov 07 01:43:37 2012]
Self-test 240K passed!
[Wed Nov 07 01:52:46 2012]
Self-test 2400K passed!
Self-test 2400K passed!
Self-test 2400K passed!
[Wed Nov 07 01:59:19 2012]
Self-test 2400K passed!

So does that mean workers failed on fft 2400k, or does it mean it failed on the 'next' value. If it's the next value, what is that value and how do i figure it out?

just upped vore to 1.520, going to try this again.
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Going to try LOWERING vcore to increase stability. I'm thinking being on 55*C+ for long periods of time is causing these crashes.

3.6ghz @ 1.3375 + .2v cpu over voltage = 1.504vcore. My temps are usually 53*C on this, in a warmer room at that, and maxing at 55*C, whereas before it was always 55*C, and maxing like 58*C.
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I keep failing Prime95 at 160k FFT. I've never made it past 160k fft, no matter what my vcore or frequency has been, just about every single overclock has failed at 160fft, although a few at others.

Maybe my overclock isnt as stable as i think it is. It sounds a lot better to say "i can make 7 hours stable" than "i fail 160k every time".

I even set a custom test (blend settings except 160k fft for min and max) and it failed before finishing a pass, around 10 minutes in. bsod x124 during light browsing.

What does 160k mean?

In all honesty I really dont care for a 24/7 rock solid build, I just want a build that won't crash on me during streaming (that's video encoding right? im just using basically xsplit to stream to twitch.tv while playing sc2). But I'm not really sure what to do. Maybe I should look into just having like an OCCT stable build or something like that... i dont know, problem with non-prime95 12+ hours stable is its just not reliable :X
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well if it means anything, i only primed my 3.8 quad for about 2 hours to make sure of temps on my v8 cooler. and ive never bsod or frozen on it in last couple of months soooooo
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hmm in that case I'll just do IBT 5 passes for stability testing. i guess.

i think because prime95 keeps failing like 5+ hours in, it might be a temp issue. I ran hyperpi32m, it ran just fine (although i was browsing during usage and had priority set to below normal, so i could browse, but its at stock settings, and ill run it again later on high priority).

i feel bad not having a prime95 24/7 stable overclock but im getting frustrated not figuring out what's causing my overclock to fail. I've tried SO many things, high volts, low volts, tweaking all sorts of components, increasing voltages on every other component...

i mean maybe my cpu just is maxed out around 3.5ghz ;/
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10 passes of 'high' IBT while doing light browsing, at 3.8ghz@1.504vcore.

91*C VRM, 59*C CPU.

Really quite hot, I'm going to lower voltage to 1.488v. When I tried this same test at 3.9ghz@1.504vcore, it bsod' pretty quickly.

Maybe I run IBT, and then prime95 custom fft on some of the lengths i tend to fail on.

Thats a lot easier than failing at 3.6ghz.

edit: i keep failing 288fft length in prime95 custom. goddamnit. *** is 288fft testing?!?

edit 2: passed custom 288fft length on 3.7gz, and 10 rounds of ibt high, on 1.488vcore. maybe ill try reducing vcore even more, ibt seems to be pushing temps a little bit higher than p95 did.
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I can't seem to get a straight find on this, but stock voltage with CPU-NB is 1.1 right?

My bios has that as the stock voltage, although in reality, bios shows that VID as 1.12-1.138v.

Although raising my cpu-nb for overclock testing hasnt seemed to help stability ;/
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