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So dropping vcore lower, from 1.3+.2 over voltage=1.488vcore to 1.2875+.2v=1.456vcore resulted in my most stable prime95 run at all!

I think maybe volts (or more specifically, heat), has been a limiting factor. There's been plenty of tests out there showing 5+ ghz on sub-ambient cooling showing vcores around 1.4 on a phenom x4 955 c2 chip. Now maybe it's possible that raising CPU-NB-VID has been helpful, but i dont think so, since last test i did with raising cpu-nb-vid just got me 6 hours, which is great, but that's generally how most of my overclocks have been going, go 6 hours and fail at 288k fft length. I'm not sure if I should just reset my cpu-nb-vid back to 1.1v, or just leave it be.... ill leave it be i suppose for now

This is the first time i"ve lasted past 288fft length at 6 hours (i can generally survive custom 288k fft tests unless its a super unstable overclock like 3.8+ ghz).

To be specific, I lasted 9 hours, 10 minutes, on prime95 Core Priority 10, at 800 fft length, on the SECOND pass!
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DO NOT TOUCH CHIPSET VOLTAGE, LEAVE IT AS IT IS ON STOCK. What was your max temp?

Okay, so I reset my chipset voltage to 1.136 (1.14 in bios) during that testbecause i figured it wasn't doing anything, and i dont think it helped at all, as evidenced. Jason, I've read that upping motherboard northbridge voltage, may help with ram/IMC stability, which I thought might be the issue here, that's why i did that, adn I've read 1.2v is the max safe limit. 1.23v in bios just turns out to be i believe 1.186 or something real voltage. Anyways, I have a rather large motherboard chipset northbridge heatsink, and I literally have an 80mm fan strapped to the heatsink, actively cooling it. I also have temp monitors on my motherboard northbridge.

Prime95 doesnt really stress the motherboard northbridge, so temps never really got high. But i believe it resulted in about 5*C higher in idle temps, upt to 26*C from 21*C. I'm pretty sure I'd be fine with 1.23 chipset voltage, its just i think its unnecessary now.

Going to run prime95 again, settings the same, overclocked 1333mhz cl7 ram, overclocked 2400ghz 1.2vid cpu-northbridge, but drop cpu-vcore down a notch.

High got to 56*C, but it seemed to have mostly run at 52-53*C the entire time.
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dont think this will help you, but broke 4.0ghz on my 960t, again, i dont think my settings will help you much with your 955

your running a thuban (any luck unlocking?). Why did you lower your HT link speed below stock? Did that help with stability?
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yes it does unlock, doesnt oc as far and more heat so i run it as a quad. didnt really notice i lowered it, i think i was kinda following someone elses settings, ill try stock and see how it works


whoops, sound out i left it on auto, now set to 2000, thanks for catching that. now to re OC
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Those temps are too low to cause a screen freeze.
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yea and i got a fatal error/fail on core #4 worker.

going to raise it back to 1.2875+.2v=1.456, but keep cpu-nb-vid and ram at stock voltage and clocks to see if that fixes things. if not, going to retest on 1.2750+.2v=1.440 volts but with overclocked/overvolted cpu-nb/ram again, because for some reason, core #4 failed whereas on 1.456vcore and overclocked nb/ram worked 'better'.
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wish you luck, fortunately for me my OC was easier than i was thinking, set everything to stock, turned off stupid stuff like cool and quiet. pushed voltage to 1.4, multi to 20x and ht set manually to 2000. finished an hour or so of prime and stable, will let it run over night to be sure, but right now i have a date with skyrim lol
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I know you've been busy clocking this system to its prime, but have you tested out SCII yet?
    
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no i havent played sc2. should i?

failed in 2 hours with 1.456 vcore. With bsod 124, which is very surprising, as most of my recent failures have been freezes/resets.

So i think NB-VID is a big factor here (that or ram, dont think its ram though). At 1.2875 with overclocked/volted ram/nb, i had my best results. at 1.2875+.2v with stock settings, i crashed with a 124 bsod in 2 hours, and with lower volts on stock i crashed quickly, quicker than 1.2875+.2v on stock settings.

maybe i should try more nb-vid, 1.22 as you say jason instead of just 1.2 vid (although this translates to much more than that in actual voltage). so running 1.2250 cpu-nb-vid, on 1.2875+.2v=1.456vcore with overclocked/volted nb, with a little more voltage than when i passed 9 hours.
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You can try increasing the vcore as that usually accounts for freezes. Download intel burn in test and run 10rounds at the max and then report back.
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I have no problem survivng 10 rounds of IBT. My big problem right now is that I can't get 24 hours stable on prime95, and can't even get more than 6 hours stable (keep failing at 288k fft length).

Lowering vcore to an untested low so far of 1.2875+.2v cpu over voltage = 1.456 vcore (ive been only testing 1.5-1.568 so far) along with overclocked/volted ram and cpu-nb brought me to 9 hours stable, which was great. I actually lasted longer in prime95 with vcore to 1.456 than at 1.472 and higher, but this was in conjunction with overclocked ram and cpu-nb.

I just failed 1.2875 + .2v = 1.456vcore with increased cpu-nb-vid/overclock at 2 hours, so I think maybe my ram might be part of the equation here. I'm really quite confused on what's going on.

I mean I'm essentially running the test again at the exact same settings as what lasted 8 hours, except 1.225 CPU-NB-VID instead of just 1.2. Which translates to 1.261-1.281 cpu-nb-voltage in bios (cant see its voltage in software program).

edit: bsod. im going to try nbvid at 1.2/2400ghz and try higher vcore at 1.488vcore.
Edited by Belial - 11/13/12 at 1:53pm
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no i havent played sc2. should i?
failed in 2 hours with 1.456 vcore. With bsod 124, which is very surprising, as most of my recent failures have been freezes/resets.
So i think NB-VID is a big factor here (that or ram, dont think its ram though). At 1.2875 with overclocked/volted ram/nb, i had my best results. at 1.2875+.2v with stock settings, i crashed with a 124 bsod in 2 hours, and with lower volts on stock i crashed quickly, quicker than 1.2875+.2v on stock settings.
maybe i should try more nb-vid, 1.22 as you say jason instead of just 1.2 vid (although this translates to much more than that in actual voltage). so running 1.2250 cpu-nb-vid, on 1.2875+.2v=1.456vcore with overclocked/volted nb, with a little more voltage than when i passed 9 hours.

Oh no, was just curious if you've seen boost in FPS from extra cache and frequency of the 955 chip
    
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