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Hopefully Valve makes a lot of progress by W9, W7 can suffice till then.
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But I don't want Linux.
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But I don't want Linux.

Neither do I, but if Valve ports to linux, the jump to other FOSS systems using gnu tools is much easier.
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I've been loving linux mint. Only problem is lack of game support. Hopefully valve can start to change that.
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Originally Posted by 0xygen View Post

Source

? How could an operating system take full advantage of the new cpu architecture specifically the multiple cores that are not utilized to full effect?
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I'm also rallying against W8 for mouse/keyboard computers. Switched 100% to linux distros, just boot up W7 for sc2 and some steam games but hopefully in the next couple years that won't even be necessary any more.

Integration in all of the different applications softwares to your everyday hardware are pretty much provided for in Linux still there needs to be some other basic substitutes for word, office and the common daily software that is within and/or supported by windows. Or, what do you think?
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Looking forward to more choices, but I'm not holding my breath.

Might not have to hold it for very much longer...
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I can see the concern that Steam is having but I doubt this will be the route Microsoft will follow.

 

They want to make tablets, phones and PCs more compatible. Not exactly the same.

 

So far there is nothing in win 7, that I can not do in win 8...

 

It is the exact same win7 experience , only instead of the start menu,  there is a start screen.

 

Win 8 is as open platform as Win 7

 

It just also has an application store.

 

 

Also lets not forget Gabe and his ranting against PS3 when it came out. We all know how it turned out later on.

post #277 of 289
It's not JUST about locking the system down. It's about the fact that the majority of people will start to use the MS store due to security "concerns". Or laziness, which will create a lack of PC gaming since there is an apparent PITA getting certs for mature games.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/11/05/serious-sam-3-developer-speaks-out-against-windows-8/?ns_campaign=article-feed&ns_mchannel=ref&ns_source=steam&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0

Since the games won't be on the store, they will lose a HUGE amount of revenue. And now that we are going the way of the app store, less and less people are potentially going to use outside sources to find games. Think of the idea behind tunnel vision with driving, you get used to it and you don't see the rest of the world. The idea is MS will start by pushing the masses to use the app store, eventually the PC market for gaming will be worse than it already is. Since Valve is a company that relies on this, there is a huge loss of potential income. Not to mention it paves the way for certification hell, which NO developer wants.

So basically your SOL if you want to use the appstore, devs like Croteam will have to rely on the age old strategy of hit or miss. Since Valve is all about the Indie devs, this would be them saying "Yes, we support indie developers but only through us. Even though in the past we've supported the idea and support them outside of Steam, now we don't". Essentially supporting Win8 means they support the store, which means they would support a product that is anti-indie development due to shoots and ladders. This is a political stance but essentially one they have to take. They don't have too but they do to show support.
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That article is old. As far as i'm aware this already got changed - with a rating over PEGI 16, ESRB MATURE, or that contain content that would warrant such a rating, are not allowed.
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That article is old. As far as i'm aware this already got changed - with a rating over PEGI 16, ESRB MATURE, or that contain content that would warrant such a rating, are not allowed.

I think the point is, devs want freedom to do with what they want without any restrictions. It's the idea that MS thought about banning such things, it's oppressive. The opsys shouldn't be made with such restrictions, that is up to the user or admin not anyone else.

It's trust, if a man breaks his word once how do you know he won't do it again? Further more, if they planned on blocking content now what promise do we have that they won't do it in the future. A relationship isn't just what is going on now but the entirety of the relationship. Sure you may have what you want today but if people do something wrong in the past there is a good chance they will do it again.
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Don't get me wrong, i'm still one of those boicotin the W8 and possibly moving to linux soon enough if nothing changes. wink.gif Just was noting the problems with the article linked.
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