[Microsoft] Microsoft Surface 32 gig only has 16 gig free space - Page 8

It's been known for a few weeks since the reviews.
Nope, it does have a 32GB (not 32Gb) SSD storage.

OSX takes 7GB.... should Apple advertise MBA having 56GB of SSD or can they continue to advertise 64GB SSD?

Absolutely and utterly wrong.

This has how devices have been advertised for over 30 years. If a MBA has a 64GB SSD and the OS takes 7GB.... what number is marketed? If you go buy ANY PC with Windows installed, what number is listed for the disk space? If you buy ANY smartphone, does the storage space ever list the size of OS and pre-installed applications?


This is how stuff has been advertised for decades... nothing new or shady. It's like the difference between GB and GiB....


1) Not the same. Go buy any computer or smartphone with an pre-installed OS.... se what number is listed.
2) Better compatiblity? Not really.... File system is a file system. The onboard storage usually has a slightly better controller.... usually. However, it generlally still sucks since it's just a single eMMC package with not enough channels. Onboard storage performance won't increase until companies start implementing more SSD-derived features.
3) What do you know of coding? The size of an application does not necessarily indictate bloat or inefficiencies. This is especially true if you don't compare functionality.

CRT use to market corner-to-corner..... including the bezel. LCDs finally resolved this with marketing corner-to-corner of only the viewable area.


I have seen some marketing material display the free space but it's rare.
Edited by DuckieHo - 11/6/12 at 8:29am

That's my point.

They were actually measuring the tube corner to corner including the unusable part behind the bezel. It wasn't necessarily a measurement including the bezels themselves, though the two would tend to be close.

The Surface is on back order out of sheer incompetence, not overwhelming demand.

If you spend a billion on advertising and your product is on back order, you had a failed launch, not a successful one

"you can't buy a surface without waiting for weeks! it must be a success.
what's a supply chain?! "

"will anyone actually want the features we're putting in windows 8?"

-nobody at microsoft, ever

Flames and loud noises! LOUD NOISES!

First of all, the people complaining about size have a point. Saying "oh it has micro SD so in your face, shut up" is a completely irrelevant and invalid argument. When you buy a 16GB 'as advertised' Nexus 7 or iPad, you get almost 16GB of storage space. The iOS system takes up about 2GB of space and formatting takes another 1GB but you effectively get a little over 12GB of space.

That's why it's ADVERTISED to have 16GB of space. And it's completely valid to complain about that.

How would you feel if you bought a 1500 square feet home and 1000 square feet are taken up by thick ass walls and the ceiling and floor are risen by 2 feet. Is it valid for me to say you shouldn't complain because you can add a closet and a storage unit to the back? lol

Guess what, someone who buys a Galaxy Note 10.1" can add 32GB of space to their tablet too. And while you can't add storage to the iPad, at least what you see is what you more or less get. No one likes the idea of having to buy extra stuff to be able to use their device to the capacity it was advertised to have and if I were a Regular Joe user (news flash, regular Joe's probably want nothing to do with Surface RT anyway since Regular Joe's are statistically proven to want iPads) I would be pretty pissed when a warning message comes up that I'm running out of space after I downloaded two music albums and one movie.

This isn't even full Windows.... *shaking my head with a face palm*

Here is a lovely 2,000 sq. ft. house for $200,000. What's that you say? It's only 1,000 sq. ft.? Hehe... are you some kind of idiot? You can always build and remodel it to get the extra 1,000 sq. ft.
Now shut up and give me $200,000 for the 2,000 sq. ft. house that isn't really 2,000 sq. ft.

You could argue that you bought a 2,000 sqft house but only have half of that because the other half is taken up by your furniture. Just because they advertise 32gb doesn't mean you get half of that. Sure, half of that is taken up by the operating system and preinstalled apps, but that is stuff you're going to use. Stuff you need!

Oh wow, you mean it's totally okay because it comes preinstalled with an email client, a digital downloading store service, a productivity suite and video playing software? That's so futuristic! There's no way iPad or Android based slates come with that software, and if they did, it would TOTALLY take up nearly 10GB of space. Oh wait, I have an Android slate and used to own an iPad and they don't take up that much space.

In fact, I had 50 additional apps on my Transformer: TWO different office suites (QuickOffice Pro and Polaris Office), a standalone PDF editor, 10 different games with 3d graphics, two different messaging applications, three different email clients, 2GB of music, 3GB of HD videos, a photo editor and I still had over 3GB of space left over from the 16GB it came with. That means my OS and all the downloaded apps and video games and media only took up about 13GB of space.

The equivalent would be if I bought a house, my own furniture and had a moderate amount of space and comfortable furniture and you bought a house nextdoor to mine but you didn't have any space because your couch was 10 inches bigger in each dimension but only seated the same amount of people.

I'm sure this chair is a completely functional and efficient piece of furniture for your Microsoft Surface RT home in the suburbs:

You guys realize there is a hidden recovery partition on the surface that takes up 4GB. You have the option to delete it and transfer the recovery files to a flash drive. You can also delete the windows update download cache. Another 1GB if you've never done it. I also reduced my paging file to 256mb from 1GB. All said and done you can actually squeeze 20-21GB of free space out of the Surface. When you also consider that the built in storage is actually 29GB instead of 32GB (true of ALL "32GB" devices, 1000 bytes = 1kb for storage purposes), the built in OS and software only take up 8-9GB. Perfectly acceptable considering all the included software and functionality.

Cry some more please.